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Re: Suggested changes {{Multiple issues|refimprove =September 2010|onesource =September 2010}}

Thank you for the suggestions for improvement. I am helping the people from EALT to address them and have given them advice for what changes can be made.--Papalotzincoatl (talk) 18:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed changes

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. [See below]

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Edmonton Community Foundation.

Extended content

Request to add link https://www.ecfoundation.org/initiatives/edmonton-area-land-trust/ to section History, to the bullet point Edmonton Community Foundation. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: https://www.ecfoundation.org/initiatives/edmonton-area-land-trust/

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Edmonton Nature Club. Request to add link http://edmontonnatureclub.org/endowment-for-land-conservation-and-stewardship.html to section History, to the bullet point Edmonton Nature Club. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: http://edmontonnatureclub.org/endowment-for-land-conservation-and-stewardship.html

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the City of Edmonton. Request to add link https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/environmental_stewardship/edmonton-area-land-trust.aspx to section History, to the bullet point City of Edmonton. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/environmental_stewardship/edmonton-area-land-trust.aspx

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Nature Conservancy of Canada. Request to add link http://www.natureconservancy.ca/en/where-we-work/alberta/featured-projects/bunchberry/ to section Bunchberry Meadows within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: http://www.natureconservancy.ca/en/where-we-work/alberta/featured-projects/bunchberry/

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website Global News Edmonton. Request to add link https://globalnews.ca/video/4792760/smith-blackburn-homestead-east-of-edmonton-to-be-opened-to-public-in-2019 to end of paragraph section in Smith Blackburn Homestead within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: https://globalnews.ca/video/4792760/smith-blackburn-homestead-east-of-edmonton-to-be-opened-to-public-in-2019

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Strathcona Bugle. Request to add link https://indd.adobe.com/view/fd203c30-1841-4410-8570-df6a10d25323 to end of paragraph in section Smith Blackburn Homestead within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: https://indd.adobe.com/view/fd203c30-1841-4410-8570-df6a10d25323

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external websites CBC news Edmonton, and NonProfit News Alberta, respectively. Request to add links https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/conservation-wildlife-edmonton-lu-carbyn-1.4492527 and https://nonprofitnewsalberta.ca/2018/01/17/edmonton-and-area-land-trust-secures-best-birding-quarter-within-100-kms-of-the-city/ to end of paragraph in section Lu Carbyn Nature Sanctuary within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/conservation-wildlife-edmonton-lu-carbyn-1.4492527 and http://nonprofitnewsalberta.ca/2018/01/17/edmonton-and-area-land-trust-secures-best-birding-quarter-within-100-kms-of-the-city/

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Well Endowed Podcast, run by the Edmonton Community Foundation. Request to add link https://www.thewellendowedpodcast.com/episodes/episode-28-into-the-woods/ to end of paragraph in section Larch Sanctuary within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section and contributes to the notability of the page itself. References supporting change: https://www.thewellendowedpodcast.com/episodes/episode-28-into-the-woods/

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Alberta Conservation Association. Request to add link https://www.ab-conservation.com/ to the words Alberta Conservation Association in section Golden Ranches within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section. References supporting change: https://www.ab-conservation.com/

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Beaver Hills Initiative. Request to add link http://www.beaverhills.ca/conserve/biosphere-nomination/ to the words Beaver Hills UNESCO Biosphere Reserve in section Smith Blackburn Homestead within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section. References supporting change: http://www.beaverhills.ca/conserve/biosphere-nomination/

Information to be added or removed: Reference for support to be added from external website the Environmentally significant areas of Alberta, created by the Alberta Government. Request to add link https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/2073237/resource/f83decf5-0912-4277-b425-cb5f7f9bdbe8 to the words Environmentally Significant Area in sections Bunchberry Meadows and Coates within section Conservation Lands. Explanation of issue: This link supports the information written in this section. References supporting change: https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/2073237/resource/f83decf5-0912-4277-b425-cb5f7f9bdbe8

Disclosure: I am the Stewardship Coordinator employed by the Edmonton and Area Land Trust.

Mjacklinealt (talk) 20:18, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 10-JAN-2019

Unable to review edit request
Your edit request could not be reviewed because the request is not formatted correctly.

The citation style predominantly used by the Edmonton & Area Land Trust article appears to be Citation Style 1. The citation style used in the edit request consists of bare URL's.^[a] Any requested edit of yours which may be implemented will need to resemble the current style already in use in the article – in this case, CS1. (See WP:CITEVAR.)
Citation ref tags have not been placed within the requested text indicating which portions of the text the source is referencing. (See WP:INTEGRITY.)

In the collapsed section below titled Request edit examples, I have illustrated two: The first shows how the edit request was submitted; the second shows how requests should be submitted in the future.

Request edit examples

Incorrectly formatted request:

The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles, while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles. The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.

<ref>https://www.booksource.com</ref>
<ref>https://www.journalsource.com</ref>
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In the example above there are three URL's provided with the claim statements, but these URL's have not been placed using Citation Style 1, which is the style predominantly used by the Edmonton & Area Land Trust article. Additionally, the ref tags have not been placed within the text at the exact positions where the information they reference resides. Using the correct style and the correct positioning of the ref tags, the WikiFormatted text would resemble the following:

Correctly formatted request:

Please add the following sentence to the first paragraph of the article's "Sun and Moon" section:

The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,<ref>{{cite book|last1=Sjöblad|first1=Tristan|title=The Sun|url=http://www.booksource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=1}}</ref> while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Duvalier|first1=Gabrielle|title=Size of the Moon|journal=Scientific American|issue=78|volume=51|url=http://www.journalsource.com|date=2018|page=46}}</ref> The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.<ref>{{cite book|last1=Uemura|first1=Shu|title=The Sun's Heat|url=http://www.websource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=2}}</ref>
Which displays as:

Please add the following sentence to the first paragraph of the article's "Sun and Moon" section:

The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,^[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.^[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.^[3]

References

^ Sjöblad, Tristan. The Sun. Academic Press, 2018, p. 1.

^ Duvalier, Gabrielle. "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 51(78):46.

^ Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2018, p. 2.

In the example above the references have been formatted according to Citation Style 1, which shows the author, the source's name, date, etc. Also, the ref tags are placed in the exact location where the text which they reference resides. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, edit requests such yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review.

Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards, Spintendo 12:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

^ The use of bare URLs as references is a style which is acceptable for use in Wikipedia. However, general practice dictates that the style already in use for an article be the one that is subsequently used for all future additions unless changed by editorial consensus. (See WP:CITEVAR.)

Some proposed changes

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

I would like to propose the addition of a number of references that support the information stated in the article. These links support the information written in this section and also contribute to the notability of the page itself.

Extended content

Please replace the words "Edmonton Community Foundation" in the History section with: Edmonton Community Foundation<ref>"Edmonton and Area Land Trust". Edmonton Community Foundation. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the words "Edmonton Nature Club" in the History section with: Edmonton Nature Club<ref>"The Edmonton Nature Club Endowment for Land Conservation and Stewardship". The Edmonton Nature Club. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the words "City of Edmonton" in the History section with: City of Edmonton<ref>"Edmonton & Area Land Trust". City of Edmonton. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the first sentence in the Bunchberry Meadows within the Conservation Lands section with: Bunchberry Meadows conservation area is a 640-acre parcel of land located west of the city of Edmonton<ref>"Bunchberry Meadows". The Nature Conservancy of Canada. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the first sentence in the Smith Blackburn Homestead within the Conservation Lands section with: Smith Blackburn Homestead is an 80 acres parcel just east of Elk Island National Park within the Cooking Lake Moraine, secured in 2018.<ref>"Smith Blackburn Homestead east of Edmonton to be opened to public in 2019". Global News. 2018-12-24. Retrieved 2019-01-10.<ref>"A Wild Gift for 10 Years of Conservation". Strathcona Bugle. 2018-12-20. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the first sentence in the Lu Carbyn Nature Sanctuary section within the Conservation Lands section with: The Lu Carbyn Nature Sanctuary is a 155-acre birding and wildlife sanctuary to the West of Edmonton that was secured in 2018.<ref>Desmarais, Anna (2018-01-18). "'I have to protect this land': New nature sanctuary west of Edmonton to open in spring". CBC News. Retrieved 2019-01-10.<ref>"Edmonton and Area Land Trust Secures Best Birding Quarter Within 100 kms of the City". NonProfit News Alberta. 2018-01-17. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the words "Alberta Conservation Association" in the first sentence of the section Golden Ranches within the Conservation Lands section with: Alberta Conservation Association<ref>"Home Page". Alberta Conservation Association. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the words "Beaver Hills UNESCO Biosphere Reserve" in the second sentence of section Smith Blackburn Homestead within section Conservation Lands with: Beaver Hills UNESCO Biosphere Reserve<ref>"Beaver Hills Biosphere". Beaver Hills Initiative. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the words "Environmentally Significant Area" in second sentences of the sections Bunchberry Meadows and Coates within section Conservation Land with: Environmentally Significant Area <ref>"Environmentally significant areas of Alberta". Alberta Government. 2015-11-10. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

Please replace the first sentence in the Larch Sanctuary section within the Conservation Lands section with: Larch Sanctuary is a 58-acre reserve located in Edmonton, upstream of Whitemud Creek's confluence with Blackmud Creek.<ref>"Episode 28 – Into the Woods". The Well Endowed Podcast. Retrieved 2019-01-10.

I am the Stewardship Coordinator for the Edmonton and Area Land Trust, so I do not want to make these edits directly.

Mjacklinealt (talk) 22:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 11-JAN-2019

The text within this article appears to have been copied from the ealt.ca website. The following sections have been omitted due to being insufficiently paraphrased from the source material:

Regards, Spintendo 01:28, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed changes

Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. [See below]

Thank you for your help in making sure we follow Wikipedia rules and guidelines. I have a series of suggested changes that will streamline the article and provide support for the information that is stated within it.

I suggest that EALT’s mission be added to the general overview of this page. I think this will provide suitable background information about the purpose of the organisation. Please add as a new paragraph after “Currently, the land trust stewards nine natural areas in the Edmonton area, with more to come.”:

"Our Mission". Edmonton and Area Land Trust. Retrieved 2019-01-18. The Edmonton and Area Land Trust is a non-profit organization dedicated to conserving vital natural areas in the Edmonton region. These natural areas provide essential habitat for wild species and crucial opportunities for local residents to connect with nature, as well as many environmental benefits. To advance local environmental stewardship and conservation, EALT also works to inform the public about important conservation issues.

I request a change to the History section to add references to support the information in this section. These references link to pages on these respective websites that reference the Edmonton and Area Land Trust and that organisations part in its creation.

Please replace the words "Edmonton Community Foundation" in the History section with: Edmonton Community Foundation<ref>"Edmonton & Area Land Trust". Edmonton Community Foundation. Retrieved 2019-01-17.

Please replace the words "Edmonton Nature Club" in the History section with: Edmonton Nature Club<ref>"The Edmonton Nature Club Endowment for Land Conservation and Stewardship". The Edmonton Nature Club. Retrieved 2019-01-17.

Please replace the words "City of Edmonton" in the History section with: City of Edmonton<ref>"Edmonton & Area Land Trust". City of Edmonton. Retrieved 2019-01-17.

I request a change to the Conservation Lands section. I suggest that it is not necessary for there to be a detailed description of each conservation land – if people are interested they can go to the EALT website for this. I suggest instead simply listing the names of the conservation lands, some of which will link to news articles about those conservation lands. Please delete the existing Golden Ranches and Larch Sanctuary sections, including the paragraph below each, and replace with the following list:

Boisvert’s Greenwoods<ref>"Boisvert's GreenWoods". Sturgeon County. Retrieved 2019-01-17.<ref>"Nature Notes: Hike along trails in Glory Hills Conservation Lands and Boisvert's GreenWoods". The Edmonton Journal. 2016-04-03. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Bunchberry Meadows<ref>"Bunchberry Meadows". The Nature Conservancy of Canada. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Coates<ref>"Nature Notes: hike along Pipestone and Willow Creeks this summer". The Edmonton Journal. 2016-05-01. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Conservation Easement in Parkland County<ref>Pretzer, Evan (2018-12-14). "New conservation acreage created in Tri-Region area". The Grove Examiner. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Glory Hills<ref>"Nature Notes: Hike along trails in Glory Hills Conservation Lands and Boisvert's GreenWoods". The Edmonton Journal. 2016-04-03. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Golden Ranches<ref>"Explore nature in the Beaver Hills Biosphere". The Edmonton Journal. 2016-04-17. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Hicks<ref>"Explore nature in the Beaver Hills Biosphere". The Edmonton Journal. 2016-04-17. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Larch Sanctuary<ref>"Episode 28 – Into the Woods". The Well Endowed Podcast. Retrieved 2019-01-17.<ref>"Larch Sanctuary: One of Edmonton's best kept secrets revealed". CBC News. 2019-01-12. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Lu Carbyn Nature Sanctuary<ref>Desmarais, Anna (2018-01-18). "'I have to protect this land': New nature sanctuary west of Edmonton to open in spring". CBC News. Retrieved 2019-01-17.<ref>"Edmonton and Area Land Trust Secures Best Birding Quarter Within 100 kms of the City". NonProfit News Alberta. 2018-01-17. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Ministik<ref>"Explore nature in the Beaver Hills Biosphere". The Edmonton Journal. 2016-04-17. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Pipestone Creek<ref>"Nature Notes: hike along Pipestone and Willow Creeks this summer". The Edmonton Journal. 2016-05-01. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
Smith Blackburn Homestead<ref>"Smith Blackburn Homestead east of Edmonton to be opened to public in 2019". Global News. Retrieved 2019-01-17.<ref>"A Wild Gift for 10 Years of Conservation". Strathcona Bugle. 2018-12-20. Retrieved 2019-01-17.

I am the Stewardship Coordinator for the Edmonton and Area Land Trust, so I do not want to directly make changes to this page.

Mjacklinealt (talk) 17:26, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 18-JAN-2019

Edit request partially implemented

Y The descriptions of conservation lands were returned to the article in list form.
N The suggested references were not added, as the information in said list is verifiable through already existing sources placed under the references section. Additional references ought to come from sources which are unconnected to the subject of the article.

I've placed some search suggestions at the top of this post. Simply click on the links to effect a search of sources on this topic. Regards, Spintendo 03:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[noteFoot01a] Sjöblad, Tristan. The Sun. Academic Press, 2018, p. 1.

[noteFoot02a] Duvalier, Gabrielle. "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 51(78):46.

[noteFoot03a] Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2018, p. 2.

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