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What happened!!

How come there is no picture of eden's crush Icevirgo99 01:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

now it is.--Zingostar 16:08, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i can't believe that all off them bullied Nicole for a year. When Nicole's album comes out i'm gonna buy two copies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joan deliarte (talk • contribs) 05:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

multicultural ambiguities

The article mentions that Eden's Crush "featured a multicultural membership of Dominican, Puerto Rican, Russian, Filipino, Hawaiian, Irish, German, and Colombian descent." This is not only irrelevant (as it shouldn't matter what the ethnicities of the members of the group are, unless that was part of their appeal, in which case that should be stated) but also very misleading, considering Scherzinger is Filipina-Hawaiian-Russian. It is racist to assume that because an individual is of a given ethnicity that her ethnicity will be represented in her music. It very well may be, but nothing in this article indicates that. If that is the case, there needs to be a section discussing how the group's multicultural makeup influenced the music. Otherwise, it is mere fetishism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sincizzil (talk • contribs) 23:34, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The point probably is that like many other manufactured pop acts the members were chosen to represent and appeal to as broad an ethnic/racial demographic as possible -- Caucasian (European-American), Asian, Polynesian, Latina and (in theory) African-American as well.

This is a broad generalization, but it seems that "girl groups" are general more mixed in terms of ethnicity/race than American "boy bands."

Getting back to Nicole Scherzinger, I don't think there is anything "Filipino" in the music she recorded with Eden's Crush or since then, but her ethnic/racial heritage gives her a "look" that appeals to a certain (very large) group of people -- just as another woman's ethnic/racial heritage gives her a (different) look that appeals to another group of people. Why do you think so many of these manufactured groups end up with at least one blond Caucasian, at least one Latina, and at least one member who has an "exotic" look that is hard to catagorize? (71.22.47.232 (talk) 22:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]