Talk:Eddie Osei-Nketia

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Common name

I moved this page to Eddie Osei-Nketia today, citing WP:COMMONNAME, and @Arorae: almost immediately reverted the change, also citing WP:COMMONNAME. While Edward is formally his forename, media in New Zealand, Osei-Nketia's home country, usually refer to him as Eddie, as seen from news stories this afternoon following his breaking of the New Zealand national record for 100 metres, from New Zealand's two main TV news outlets and leading print / web news outlet: [1], [2], [3]. Paora (talk) 05:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a NZ (even if part of my family lives there) and for all athletes, of all countries, I use COMMONNAME as you can find it in main Sports sources as World Athletics, Olympedia, and so. WPen: is not only the NZ point of view of some local medias. I have no doubt that his nickname is Eddie as he becomes more and more popular (my best NZ friend calls him Bill even if his official name is William), but at the moment even NZ federation called him Edward until last year, as NZ Herald does or Stuff.com.--Arorae (talk) 05:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But of course, @Paora:, I think that the article could be improved not only by changing the name as done before, but by adding "Eddie" after his official name - as many NZ sites call him Eddie since 2022. But I would prefer that the title remains Edward Osei-Nkeita until the main sources change the use of it (like Mo Farah instead of Mohamed Farah)--Arorae (talk) 05:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eddie is undoubtedly the common name, whatever World Athletics or anyone else might think. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 06:05, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV must be seen also by looking at the World Athletics profile and results and in media of all over the world, and even many media in NZ as demonstrated above.--Arorae (talk) 06:08, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Athletics New Zealand is the primary source for New Zealand athletes: [4]. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 06:12, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Primary Sources are NOT the good ones for COMMONNAME but secondary ones fit better.--Arorae (talk) 06:15, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

and even primary sources write Edward as here.--Arorae (talk) 06:20, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Arorae: Please see MOS:HYPOCORISM. Eddie is a common hypocorism of Edward, rather than a nickname. In accordance with the MOS, "Eddie" should therefore NOT be added after his formal name in the lede. The New Zealand Herald used Eddie in today's report here, as did Stuff in today's report and Radio New Zealand today. Examples of foreign media and websites using Eddie include Sydney Morning Herald (Australia) here, Daily Mirror (UK) here, Italian sprinting website SprintNews.it here, and American running website LetsRun.com here. Athletics New Zealand uses Eddie here, Athletics Australia uses Eddie here, and World Athletics uses Eddie here. Also worth noting that he calls himself Eddie on his Instagram page. Paora (talk) 09:07, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Paora:, even if my English is not a native one, I am perfectly aware about Hypocorism. In my personal case, I am always called not with my official name. Sorry to have said "nickname" instead. You have convinced me that now Eddie is more usual than Edward (because of his celebrity). When I created this article, he wasn't famous enough. In fact, even his own father has a hypochorism (from Augustine I think). Sorry for being quite consersative (World Athletics makes very few mistakes in athletes' names.--Arorae (talk) 08:06, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]