Talk:Ed Doyle (American football)

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The confusing case of Ed and Eddie

We have articles on two Edward J. Doyles who played in the NFL around the same time:

Eddie Doyle (American football) - played for Frankford/Pottsville in 1924-1925.
Ed Doyle (American football) - played for Buffalo 1927

Both are shown with the same death date in Morocco. Are these the same person? Or are there two? Adding to the confusion, there is a third Edward J. Doyle (here) who also attended Canisius around the same time as #2 Cbl62 (talk) 17:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per Beanie, PFR (here) shows second Doyle as dying much later in Canada. So this is probably just a case of mistaken identity on #2. Cbl62 (talk) 17:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to PFR, Doyle # 2 is not even an Edward. He's an Elmer. What a mess. Cbl62 (talk) 17:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cbl62: PFR has an "Ed Doyle" that I believe matches up with individual #2 in your list.

Both listed as born July 5, 1905
Both listed as born in Buffalo, NY
Both listed as having played for the 1927 Buffalo Bisons
Same college (Canisius) listed
Both offensive linemen

Ed Doyle's full name is apparently Elmer John Doyle as well. Apparears Ed Doyle may have also went by Bud Doyle, based on this roster the NFL has on their site, which includes a link to a Bud Doyle who matches up with the PFR individual. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cbl62: Found a relevent article on Ed Doyle here. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Josh, the article has been fixed now. Cbl62 (talk) 16:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh and Cbl62: His name seems to be 'Elmer' and PFR seems to be the only source with 'Ed' – should the article be moved to Bud Doyle (his nickname) or Elmer Doyle? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. For the time period of his football career (1923-1928), Newspapers.com has 1,782 hits for "Ed Doyle" and 1,155 for "Bud Doyle". Those are mostly different people altogether, so that search doesn't give much guidance, and I don't have the patience to sift through 3,000 articles to see which was the more common name. Cbl62 (talk) 16:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given the obit and Josh's findings, a move seems logical. No objections. Cbl62 (talk) 16:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]