Talk:Economy of Chile
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Please explain UTM
[edit]Can someone please explain the concept of "UTM" (Unidad Tributaria Mensual) in the article? Something I read explained it as "a currency unit, expressed in Chilean pesos, adjusted monthly in line with CPI". But I don't know if it is adjusted up or down, why it is adjusted or its use.
I don't read Spanish, so can not research it myself. Andrew8 13:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
NAFTA; debt level
[edit]If Chile already has free trade agreements with the US, Canada and Mexico, why doesn't it belong to the NAFTA, as it was the original proposal almost 10 years ago?
Also, the phrase: The combined public and private foreign debt was roughly 50% of GDP at the end of 2000, low by Latin American standards. seems incorrect. It might be low compared to Argentina and Brazil, but not to Mexico and Costa Rica.
FTA
[edit]Chile tried to sign the Nafta in 97 but US Congress was against during the last 90's Having seen that, Chile began to sign trade agreements with(Mex and Canada) And only when the 'fast track'(a tool to sign FTA's quickly by US) was approved in 2002 (expires in 2007) Chile could sign a bilateral FTA with the US. Due to that, Chile has free trade with NAFTA but is not a member.
The debt in 2005 is 39%/GDP (private 80% + public 20%) debt svce: 12%
- The public debt of Chile is currently slightly above 9 billion of dollars, if you compare this with the current GDP of 115 Billion dollars (2005), its not even 10%.
- The public debt remains arround 9 billion $ today. GDP increased to 164 billion now, public debt now represents about 5,5% of the total GDP. --194.203.215.254 (talk) 11:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Economy in the Pinochet (post 1973 - late 1980s) era missing
[edit]The article doesn't talk about the period 1973-late 80s (called "Miracle of Chile"). It should either mention that in the body or incorporate elements into the main article. Perhaps one paragraph together with a "see main article" would be appropriate. Or merging the two articles. Kingsindian (talk) 07:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
MERGE with "Miracle"?
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The result was keep separate. -- Debate 木 00:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm proposing that the Miracle of Chile article merge into Economy of Chile. You can see my comments on that talk page, and comment here or there.--Dylanfly 21:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- I disagee. I think they should be kept separate. "Miracle of Chile" is more philosphical and academic, with an economist's viewpoint. This article discusses the more practical aspects of the economy. They have different audiences. Combining them will diminsh both. Andrew8 13:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep seperate. As others have mentioned, this is a historical event with a LOT of academic debate associated with it. It deserves to remain as a seperate subject in Wikipedia, not a part of a discussion of the current economy of Chile. This should remain a seperate page. Dissembly (talk) 05:49, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep separate. "Miracle of Chile" is notable event and also it is too big to be merged. --Doopdoop (talk) 22:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- I disagee. Keep separate. "Miracle of Chile" is notable in itself and deserves to be kept separate. --Mel Romero (talk) 01:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep separate. "Miracle of Chile" is a specific phenomena arising from the Chicago economic school's influence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.221.52 (talk) 20:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Dylanfly, merge. There are already too many articles dealing with this topic (Economic history of Chile, Economy of Chile, History of Chile, Chile under Pinochet, Chile pension system, Chicago Boys and so on). Nobody can cope with such a mess and it increases the danger of propaganda escaping scrutiny because articles are not watched closely any more.--84.167.173.196 (talk) 00:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep separate. "Miracle of Chile" could do with a less POV title, but it is certainly an article on an historical period of significant importance above and beyond its immediate Chilean consequences. Man The Wise (talk) 08:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree, the articles should stay separate. "Miracle of Chile" can be expanded by adding needed references and a well documented criticism section. Examples of countries or regional blocs featuring economic periods include: Celtic Tiger, Greek economic miracle, Baltic Tiger, and the Four Asian Tigers. Selecciones de la Vida (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Gini
[edit]The article list a number calling it the Gini Coefficient, but I think it should really read "Gini index." The coefficient has a value between 0 and 1, multiplying by 100 gives the index. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.206.222.20 (talk) 16:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Since the article is about the economy of Chile, it should take into account Chile´s distribution of wealth instead of the Inequality of the Human Development Index. Economic variables aside, the latter is calculated with variables which aren´t strictly economic.--Rivet138 (talk) 22:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Plagiarism?
[edit]I don't want to sound alarmist or anything, but has anyone else noticed the resounding similarities between this article and the CIA World Factbook's entry on Chile's economy? Quoted from https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ci.html:
"Chile has a market-oriented economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. During the early 1990s, Chile's reputation as a role model for economic reform was strengthened when the democratic government of Patricio AYLWIN - which took over from the military in 1990 - deepened the economic reform initiated by the military government. Growth in real GDP averaged 8% during 1991-97, but fell to half that level in 1998 because of tight monetary policies implemented to keep the current account deficit in check and because of lower export earnings - the latter a product of the global financial crisis. A severe drought exacerbated the recession in 1999, reducing crop yields and causing hydroelectric shortfalls and electricity rationing, and Chile experienced negative economic growth for the first time in more than 15 years. Despite the effects of the recession, Chile maintained its reputation for strong financial institutions and sound policy that have given it the strongest sovereign bond rating in South America. Between 2000 and 2007 growth ranged between 2%-6%. Throughout these years Chile maintained a low rate of inflation with GDP growth coming from high copper prices, solid export earnings (particularly forestry, fishing, and mining), and growing domestic consumption. President BACHELET in 2006 established an Economic and Social Stabilization Fund to hold excess copper revenues so that social spending can be maintained during periods of copper shortfalls. This fund will surpass $20 billion by the end of 2007. Chile continues to attract foreign direct investment, but most foreign investment goes into gas, water, electricity and mining. Unemployment has exhibited a downward trend over the past two years, dropping to 7.8% and 6.7% at the end of 2006 and 2007, respectively. Chile deepened its longstanding commitment to trade liberalization with the signing of a free trade agreement with the US, which took effect on 1 January 2004. Chile claims to have more bilateral or regional trade agreements than any other country. It has 57 such agreements (not all of them full free trade agreements), including with the European Union, Mercosur, China, India, South Korea, and Mexico."
Quoted from 2 March 2008 reading of a Wikipedia entry on the Economy of Chile at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_chile:
sari jo loves you !!"Chile has a dynamic market-oriented economy characterized by a high level of foreign trade. During the early 1990s, Chile's reputation as a role model for economic reform was strengthened when the democratic government of Patricio Aylwin - which took over from the military in 1990 - deepened the economic reform initiated by the military government. Growth in real GDP averaged 8% during the period 1991-1997, but fell to half that level in 1998 because of tight monetary policies implemented to keep the current account deficit in check and because of lower export earnings - the latter a product of the global financial crisis. Chile's economy has since recovered and has seen growth rates of 5-7% over the past several years. In 2006, Chile became the country with the highest nominal GDP per capita in Latin America [1]. Even though the exceptional Chilean economic results, when measured exclusively by the GNP indicators (a gauge that does not adequately depict the social depth of economic wellbeing) the Chilean economy income distribution has been extremely poor. Chile ranks 80th among the coutries on the list of income distribution, being the fourth in Latin America (behind Brazil, Paraguay and Colombia) and ranking, on that important indicator, behind much poorer African coutries such as Zambia, Nigeria and Malawi."
Especially among the opening lines, there are very similar sentences. You make the call. Deeper thoughts (talk) 04:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- The CIA World Factbook is a public domain, so there isn't a violation of copyright. CenterofGravity (talk) 17:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
While it is true that the CIA waves copyright on the "World Factbook" and it may not be strictly illegal as it stands it is none the less plagiarism if credit is not given. It undercuts the credibility of this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.111.56.128 (talk) 13:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Sound economic policy?
[edit]Re: The opening paragraph of the policy section which begins:
"Sound economic policies, maintained consistently since the 1980s, have contributed to steady economic growth in Chile... " This sounds reads like an editorial remark rather than a neutral point of view. I suspect that those who bother to check will find that most performance metrics for Chile correlate much better with world market prices for copper, a key Chilean export, than with any Chilean domestic policy or policy change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.196.235 (talk) 22:19, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Significant improvements
[edit]During this week I will be preparing some modifications to this article. Specifically, the Economic policies section might be a little bit disorganized and important policies are not adequately represented. I am therefore working on developing subsections on monetary (e.g. central bank’s objectives and instruments), fiscal (e.g. taxation, expenditures, sovereign wealth funds, structural balance rule) and trade policy (e.g. adding information on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the Pacific Alliance and other ongoing and recently finished negotiations), in order to help the reader gather a more comprehensive perspective. This would involve some re-arranging of existing work in the sections of Economic policy and Foreign trade, in order to avoid duplication. I will also try to update some information that is a bit outdated, as well as other minor edits in existing sections.
I am open to comments, suggestions or any other reactions and would especially appreciate any feedback if I make mistakes. I will endeavor to keep a NPOV and reliable sources behind my work, while being careful of copyright issues.
--Btpalaci (talk) 03:38, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Nice to have people willing to do great improvements. The only recommendation I think is good to remember is to cite works properly (not with bare urls etc.). Also if you want you can also contribute to economic history of Chile an article I have contributed a lot to. Dentren | Talk 04:12, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you! I just uploaded the modifications, but I believe there is room for further improvement, so I might be doing additional minor edits to the article. Other than what I had announced, I also added a chapeau on the sectors section and updated the issues section to reflect recent controversies, where I was especially careful to present all perspectives from a NPOV. --Btpalaci (talk) 21:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
External link to tariff data
[edit]Hello everyone, I am working for the International Trade Centre (ITC), a UN/WTO agency that aims to promote sustainable economic development through trade promotion. I would like to propose the addition of an external link (http://www.macmap.org/QuickSearch/FindTariff/FindTariff.aspx?subsite=open_access&country=SCC152%7cChile&source=1%7CITC) that leads directly to our online database of customs tariffs applied by Chile. Visitors can easily look up market access information for Chile by selecting the product and partner of their interest. I would like you to consider this link under the WP:ELYES #3 prescriptions. Moreover, the reliability and the pertinence of this link can be supported by the following facts 1) ITC is part of the United Nations, and aims to share trade and market access data on by country and product as a global public good 2) No registration is required to access this information 3) Market access data (Tariffs and non-tariff measures) are regularly updated
Thank you, Divoc (talk) 09:52, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
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Average gross salary
[edit]Bad source the $61,088, does not correspond to reality, this is based on a survey with 173 entries.
market economy?
[edit]What is a market economy in a country with a nationalized mining company, that's the most productive in world? this clear propaganda 2601:588:8100:E3C0:7D7E:77D8:17F4:BFCB (talk) 06:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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Proposed merge of Inflation in Chile into Economy of Chile
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No need for a separate article Bedivere (talk) 05:37, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Bedivere:, please follow the procedure described at WP:RM#CM and use {{subst:requested move}} at the top of the article page. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, it should have been done automatically with TW, not sure what happened. will do when I get to a PC Bedivere (talk) 13:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the merge proposal; the current structure works fine and the inflation article is well-developed. I've added a 'see also' template so that the pages are better linked. Klbrain (talk) 14:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose merge. Topics are in a parent – child relationship and both topics are notable. 'Inflation in Chile' should be a brief section in Economy of Chile in summary style, and contain a {{Main}} link at top of section linking Inflation in Chile. Mathglot (talk) 00:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)