Talk:EcoSim

This article was nominated for deletion on 20 July 2012 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

EcoSim : original research & lack of notability

At the moment the "sources" are :

Gras, Robin; Devaurs D., Wozniak A., Aspinall A. (2009). "An individual-based evolving predator-prey ecosystem simulation using a Fuzzy Cognitive Map model of behavior". Artificial Life 15 (4): 423-463. DOI:10.1162/artl.2009.Gras.012.
Nathalie, Osbore (November 2, 2011). "Nature by numbers: Simulated ecosystems provide answers to biological questions". International Science Grid this Week.
Mallet, J. (1995). "A species definition for the modern synthesis". Trends in ecology and evolution 10: 294-299.
Scott, Ryan; Gras R. (2012). "Comparing Distance-Based Phylogenetic Tree Construction Methods Using An Individual-Based Ecosystem Simulation, EcoSim". he Thirteenth International Conference on the Synthesis and Simulation of Living Systems (Artificial Life 13): 105-110.
Stephen, Fields (August 2, 2011). "New resources speed up ecosystem evolution simulations for computer scientist".
Devaurs, D.; Gras R. (2010). "Species abundance patterns in an ecosystem simulation studied through Fisher’s logseries". Simulation Modelling Practice and Theory 18: 100-123.
Golestani, A.; Gras R. (2010). "Regularity analysis of an individual-based ecosystem simulation". Chaos: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Nonlinear Science 20: 043120.
Mashayekhi, M.; Gras R. (2012). "Investigating the Effect of Spatial Distribution and Spatiotemporal Information on Speciation using Individual-Based Ecosystem Simulation". Journal of Computing 2: 98-103.
Golestani, A.; Gras R., Cristescu M. (August 2012). "Speciation with gene flow in a heterogeneous virtual world: can physical obstacles accelerate speciation?". Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences 279 (1740): 3055-3064.

Sources #1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9 aren't independant as they're all written or co-written by Robin Gras. Source #3 dates back to 1995 and can't therefore be used as EcoSim didn't exist at that time. Source #5 comes from Gras' own university and praises Gras' works but isn't centered on EcoSim itself. Source 2 only rephrases what's already said on Gras' & EcoSim's personal page and doesn't analyses anything. I'd therefore say that : 1° notability is still to be proven ; 2° there's no sufficient material to write a neutral article. At the moment, it appears to be an original research. It seems like it's a bit to soon for an article on EcoSim on Wikipedia. --Koui² (talk) 09:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These sources contain high impact factor journals and have therefore gone through an in deep independent peer review process that evaluates the interest, significance and quality of the works presented. These references cover all the material presented in the Wikipedia article, therefore nothing in this material is original research. However, I have added two other references that are review papers on the domain that talk about EcoSim. It should be notice also that most of the others artificial life tool pages presented in Wikipedia contain much fewer or no references at all and they do not seem to have been considered as original researches or having a lack of notability. --Robingras 10:14 July 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 14:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]