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suggested sources?

Hi, I'd like to improve this page, but I'm not familiar with sources on concentration camps and I'm having trouble finding reliable sources. Inside The Gates: The Nazi Concentration Camp at Ebensee, Austria looked great but it is self-published through Xlibris. The Jewish Virtual Library article on Ebensee cited a page which didn't cite its source. The US Army History page looks a bit more official and has an author--do you think that's a RS?

The library I work in has what appears to be a whole book on Ebensee, but unfortunately, it's in German. Please let me know what sources you recommend for the page. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:51, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the Reliable Sources Noticeboard and it looks like there isn't consensus about if the Jewish Virtual Library is a reliable source. I used it for the names of the officers in charge of the camp and for some of the information about conditions in the camp. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:05, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was able to find alternate sources for most of the things that were previously sourced to the Jewish Virtual Library, and removed the other information I couldn't find another source for. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:32, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Citing David Irving

The man is a famous Holocaust denier. Nothing he writes on the topic can be considered a reliable source. Furthermore it is deeply offensive to cite him, and doing so calls the credibility of the entire article into question. This article should not cite him. The factoid that the camp manufactured tank gears should be removed if no other source can be found. TallNapoleon (talk) 14:47, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Admittedly I did not know that Irving was a holocaust denier when I cited The Mare's Nest. However, I believe the citation should remain, because I couldn't find any other English source that had as much detail about Ebensee's purported purpose. The Wikipedia page for the book cites the Smithsonian's Michael J. Neufeld's 2009 statement that the books remains ""the most complete account on both Allied and German sides of the V-weapons campaign in the last two years of the war"^[1] Kirkus called it a "densely detailed account."^[2] That said, I'm open to being wrong. I asked at the reliable sources noticeboard about the source to see if other people have opinions on the subject. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Neufeld, Michael J (2009). "Creating a Memory of the German Rocket Program for the Cold War". In Dick, Steven J (ed.). Remembering the Space Age. Government Printing Office. ISBN 9780160867118.
^ "THE MARE'S NEST by David Irving | Kirkus Reviews".

Since I'm going to be off Wikipedia for the next two months, I removed the Irving source, assuming consensus at the RS Noticeboard agrees with you, User:TallNapoleon. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:34, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! TallNapoleon (talk) 08:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Neufeld, Michael J (2009). "Creating a Memory of the German Rocket Program for the Cold War". In Dick, Steven J (ed.). Remembering the Space Age. Government Printing Office. ISBN 9780160867118.

[2] "THE MARE'S NEST by David Irving | Kirkus Reviews".

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