Talk:East to West (song)

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Casting Crowns' song "East to West" received 78 adds in its first week, a record at Christian radio?

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out the lyrics== Sniff, sniff... == Sniff, sniff, I smell a copyvio... But without the lyrics, there really isn't much of a page. is this a candidate for deletion? --Superpika66 (talk) 02:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about the lyrics, so I deleted them. The article is likely notable enough to stay, but it needs expansion with stuff like chart position and the like. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adds?

I don't even understand the DYK hook. What does it mean to "receive N adds"? Ntsimp (talk) 14:47, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

'Adds' is a term used to indicate the number of radio stations that have added a song to their station's playlist in a given chart week, so 'recieving X adds' means the song was added by X stations during a given week. Another usage would be an 'adds' date, which is the date a song is officially released to radio, ie. going for 'adds'. :) Toa Nidhiki05 15:04, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any article to which this one could link to explain the opaque industry jargon? Ntsimp (talk) 15:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, there isn't, unfortunately. I understand the confusion - it is jargon used in the industry - but there's not really much that can be done to explain it on-page. Toa Nidhiki05 17:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:East to West (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Status (talk · contribs) 17:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lead / Infobox

Critics --> Best to specify that they are music critics.
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It won the Dove Awards for Song of the Year and Pop/Contemporary Recorded Song of the Year at the 39th GMA Dove Awards; the band also performed the song at that event. --> This reads awkwardly. Not sure if the fact that they also performed is relevant. Also, "it won the Dove Award"
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm seeing too many usage of the "it". Try to alternate between "it", "the song" and the song's title.
- By my count there are fourteen uses of the song title, thirteen of "the song", and ten of "it". Is that a good enough split for each? Toa Nidhiki05 22:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"East to West" received 78 adds in its first week, a record at Christian radio, and peaked atop five chart formats, as well as at number twenty-five on the Billboard Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles chart. --> This also reads awkwardly. It can probably be split into two sentences.
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It ranked at number six on the decade-end Billboard Hot Christian Songs chart and at number seven on the decade-end Billboard Hot Christian AC chart, as well as inside the top fifteen on both the 2007 and 2008 year-end Hot Christian Songs and Hot Christian AC charts --> It ranked at number six on the decade-end Billboard Hot Christian Songs chart and at number seven on the decade-end Billboard Hot Christian AC chart. Additionally, it ranked inside the top fifteen on both the 2007 and 2008 year-end Hot Christian Songs and Hot Christian AC charts.
- Done. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
signifying sales of over 500,000 digital downloads. --> Digital isn't needed there.
- It is needed on that one; the RIAA has separate certifications for physical and digital singles because they count shipments for physical singles and actual sales for digital singles. Toa Nidhiki05
I'm not seeing a source for a release date.
- Fixed with radio adds date instead. Toa Nidhiki05 17:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a single cover?
- I have the single version on my iTunes library and it is the exact same cover as their album The Altar and the Door. However, it isn't available as the single version on iTunes or Amazon anymore and thus isn't verifiable. Toa Nidhiki05 17:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Background is information that happens before the production/release of a song. This basically just talks about production. I'd say merging Composition and Background together would be a good idea.
- Fixed, changed to 'Recording and composition'. Toa Nidhiki05

Composition

F♯ minor, and has a tempo of 77 beats per minute. --> F♯ minor at a tempo of 77 beats per minute.
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Casting Crowns' lead vocalist Mark Hall explained that --> colon before quotes begin
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hall elaborated on that theme, commenting that --> same as above
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sample of the song?
- If I can get the program downloaded at some point today I'll do it, but I'll be gone for a little while longer. Toa Nidhiki05 22:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

Upon its release --> Upon what release?
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing as there is also information here about winning awards, I'd say a retitle is in order. I don't think the subheaders are really needed, so how about just have all this under reception?
- Good idea, done. Toa Nidhiki05 22:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"East to West" was released as the lead single from Casting Crowns' 2007 album The Altar and the Door. --> This part is more of background info. Doesn't really belong here.
- Removed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It advanced to number one in its seventh week on the chart;[13] in total, "East to West" spent forty-three weeks atop the chart[14] and spent a total of nineteen weeks at the top spot, tied with Brandon Heath's "Give Me Your Eyes" for the second most weeks at number one in the history of the Hot Christian Songs chart --> Way too long of a sentence. Needs to be broken up.
- Fixed. Toa Nidhiki05 22:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Basically this whole section contains too long of sentences. These all need to be broken up or just shortened.
- Done, I think. Toa Nidhiki05 22:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Live performances

Casting Crowns has performed "East to West" in concert --> Not very descriptive? Where? When?
- Hope its a bit better now. Toa Nidhiki05 22:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Other uses

A bit too short to be on its own. I don't know where it could go though.
- Yeah, not too big of a section. I removed it. Toa Nidhiki05 22:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chart positions

2007–2008 --> 2007–08

References

Billboard.biz --> Billboard; we discussed this in the other review I did on an article you wrote/contributed to

I have fixed those last two remaining issues on my own. We're all set. Great job on the article. It's a pass! Statυs (talk) 22:43, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]