Talk:East Turkistan Government in Exile

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the East Turkistan Government in Exile article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: Index, 1: 90 days

The use of the contentious topics procedure has been authorised by the community for pages related to Uyghurs, Uyghur genocide, or topics that are related to Uyghurs or Uyghur genocide, including this page. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be sanctioned.

This page was proposed for deletion by Robert McClenon (talk · contribs) on 17 June 2020.

China Low‑importance

	China portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChinaWikipedia:WikiProject ChinaTemplate:WikiProject ChinaChina-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Politics Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

East Turkistan vs Xinjiang

Is East Turkistan anywhere near WP:COMMONNAME for the region? Obviously it should be used for the “government in exile” itself, but it seems to be used a lot in this article to describe the region itself. Paragon Deku (talk) 19:07, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They claim different areas. The map of the claimed land appears to encompass land beyond the XUAR's formal borders, so it wouldn't be quite correct to say that they claim just Xinjiang. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 23:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

“Recognition of China's atrocities as genocide” section

I seriously think this section needs to be heavily reworked and retitled to dial back exactly what we’re putting in wikivoice. The word “atrocity” is repeated (unquoted and unattributed) several times, even in sentences whose inline citations don’t use the word themselves. I’m not sure we even do this on pages of objectively historically recognized events one would call a genocide (it’s only used once on the page for the Holocaust) Paragon Deku (talk) 01:17, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

Emblem of East Turkistan Government in Exile.png

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 13:18, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removing multiple Routledge books on "Positions"

Multiple Routledge books have described what is in the "Positions" section, with one of saying that ETGE is one of, with exact words:

Uyghur groups advocating radical forms of ideological and armed struggle including terrorist activities.

These are both academic sources published by Routledge and an argument for removing the description given by multiple academic books requires serious reliable sources. — MarkH₂₁^talk 18:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also regarding the claim of Furthermore, the data is from pre 2010, the books were published in 2010, 2013, and 2023. — MarkH₂₁^talk 18:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CentralAsiaEnthuist: I hope you realize, by the way, the difference between a "Turkish and Chinese" sources and two Routledge books that have authors who have Turkish-sounding and Chinese-sounding names. Or even two such books with authors who have Turkish or Chinese family backgrounds... That doesn't determine whether a source is reliable or unreliable. — MarkH₂₁^talk 00:39, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References for letter to Congress

Regarding this edit, the material needs better sourcing than the YouTube link (see WP:RSPYT) and ANI (which is not particularly reliable for this kind of politics-related event) in order for it to be of due weight and inclusion-worthy. Everything I can find at the moment is either unreliable or is from the ETGE (e.g. press releases). — MarkH₂₁^talk 03:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Long title

@Beshogur: According to you, the long name in infobox is always for self referring names. Their official website states the East Turkistan Government-in-Exile name right in the heading. Are you saying that this is not their self referring name? Northern Moonlight 23:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Northern Moonlight: [1] here The East Turkistan Government-in-Exile (ETGE), officially the Government in Exile of the Republic of East Turkistan, is the democratically elected representative body of East Turkistan and its people.

Beshogur (talk) 12:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]