Talk:Early life of Marcus Aurelius

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 07:41, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Will start soon. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 07:41, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggest expanding the lead paragraphs, perhaps add in info about his wife and children, and about his civic roles. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 19:28, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
He served as a Roman consul prior to his accession. suggest:
He served as a Roman consul three times prior to his accession.
he probably taught Marcus the basics of that language.[35] (He is said to have taught Marcus literature.[36]) suggest:
he probably taught Marcus the basics of that language, as he is said to have taught Marcus literature.
For his dutiful behavior, Antoninus was asked to accept the name "Pius" should specify who asked him to. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 19:28, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Edward Champlin reckons him a senator. suggest:
Edward Champlin suggests he may have been a senator.
@Векочел: That is all my suggestions, passing now. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 19:28, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merging with Marcus Aurelius

Hi fellow editors. I stumbled across this page when doing research on Marcus Aurelius. I don't see why it's necessary to have Early life of Marcus Aurelius as a separate page from the main Marcus Aurelius page. May I suggest we merge? Historic13 (talk) 18:28, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Historic13: I would strongly oppose the merging of the articles; for cases where there is a very known figure, it is somewhat common to spin off segments of their life, such as early life, in order to reduce page sizes on the main article. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 08:57, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose officially; also apparently I was the GAN reviewer four years ago. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 11:21, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose No good reason to merge this Good Article into another very long article.★Trekker (talk) 09:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: I agree with Iazyges and StarTrekker: this seems like a perfectly appropriate sub article spun out for length reasons. The main article on Marcus Aurelius is already 9,300 words long, and there's probably scope for expanding the legacy/in popular culture sections further. I can't see any reason why we would want to add thousands more words to the discussion of Marcus' early life in the main article. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 10:37, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for the reasons already given: both articles are quite long and detailed, and cover different scopes; a general life, and one focused exclusively on the future emperor's youth, education, and preparation for his elevation. The main article is over 130K, which is very long; this one is over 70K, and both are of a size that would support further splitting, if deemed appropriate (although I don't think that it's necessary if they function well currently). Together they would make a huge article that would require splitting pretty much exactly the way they are now, so merging them would be an extremely lengthy and difficult process with no benefit to either readers or editors. P Aculeius (talk) 14:36, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the speedy and constructive opinion. Now that I read through the main article it seems appropriate to keep them separate. Cheers Historic13 (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]