Talk:Dutch squatting ban

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(all content needs to be Creative Commons or another free license) Genjix (talk) 00:14, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

• Riots did not occur as could be deducted from the 2nd line. First there where protests an subsequently they ended in a riot. Alibobar (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC).

• The attack on the police station didn't come from the squatters, but from the Maluku community: they had announced that they would arrest the Prime Minister of Indonesia who was planning to visit Am*dam. The visit was canceled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.56.136.81 (talk) 21:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

NPOV

"The recently elected coalition government motioned a squatting ban on 1 June. The referendum was accepted by both houses of parliament with enforcement to commence 1 October."

Recently elected government coalition? 1 June? Bullshit. The squatting ban is a product of CDA-Labour-ChristianUnion coalition. It has nothing to with the new minority coalition whatsoever. There was no referendum either. Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 00:05, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

A government which took power on 14 October 2010 could hardly have passed a squatting ban which was passed into law on 1 October 2010 and had been agreed upon by both the Dutch House of Representatives on 15 October 2009 as well as the Dutch Senate on 1 June 2010. This article seems to have been created by squatters or proponents of squatting and thus has a severe NPOV issue. SpeakFree (talk) 12:04, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep, it was written by me. I am for squatting but lacking legal knowledge of the situation. I tried to keep the article NPOV, yet my POV peeks through. So if you want to run the Wiki process to bring it back in line, I have no objections as we're all here to build encyclopedia excellentia :) Another editor needs to pull it to the centre. Genjix (talk) 23:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

BTW I was also in error, in The Netherlands the government (cabinet) can't pass anything in to law, they can only propose laws. It's the parliament (house and senate) which has the power to make laws. SpeakFree (talk) 20:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV

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Sourcing

Hi Graywalls, thanks for the citation needed tag, I've found a better source, a Dutch mainstream newspaper. Regarding the sources you deleted:

• https://n-1.cc/pg/blog/bocaextra/read/46599/anti-squatting-ban-demos-in-the-netherlands - absolutely worth removing
• the squatnet link is a press release from the the squatters of the fire brigade HQ and therefore fine as a citation for the end of the occupation
• regarding indymedia, you are really imposing your own opinion on a situation where there is no real consensus. the best debate i've found is at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_275#Indymedia and that is inconclusive. i do not dispute it is a self-published source, but then it depends on context how it is used. here it is simply a statement that a banner protest was made, that doesn't seem very controversial to me. in any case, i'll search for a better source (we can agree i hope that indymedia is not the best reliable secondary source!) Mujinga (talk) 15:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I found a better source, de Volkskrant so that's great! I'd like to keep the indymedia link since it's no making extraordinary claims, just giving more evidence of the banners. If you would prefer, it could be made an external link. Mujinga (talk) 17:08, 3 October 2020 (UTC)