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Reviewer: Dunkleosteus77 (talk · contribs) 03:32, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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You could use this   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, that dictionary does not contain any of the terms used in the article. --Nessie (talk) 18:28, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It’s really only used in the context of leaves and petals   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  04:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Right, plants do not have caducous tails that are reabsorbed in development, they have caducous leaves that fall early. I don't think the term applies in plants to parts being reabsorbed. --Nessie (talk) 17:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just because there's a specific word for leaves falling early doesn't mean you have to use it   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:20, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
whenever possible, don’t add unnecessary confusion by showing off your impressive vocabulary   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's a little accusatory. The terms used are all from the sources, and not added by me. In this case, it's what Odoardo Beccari wrote. I assume that if a term is used in the original formal species description it was not added just to show off impressive vocabulary. --Nessie (talk) 18:28, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes it is, actually. We aim to summarize, and that means we do not have to recite verbatim. If you can use a simpler word, use a simpler word. If you feel it's very necessary (which is oftentimes the case, as with petiole and colporate) you give the technical term, but as far as I'm aware, "tumescent" is not a technical word, it's an SAT word. The same goes for globose   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:11, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Those words only exist to confuse people   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That seems a bit of an extreme exaggeration. The synonyms listed on Wiktionary are all less common than tumescent, except for 'turgid', which sounds lewd and means 'swollen with fluid' and not 'becoming swollen with fluid' like tumescent does. What word do you think is better? --Nessie (talk) 02:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Or you could say “nearly spherical” instead of complicating everything with wiki links   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You didn’t even explain what capitate mean. A link to stigma doesn’t help the reader understand   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was not a link to Stigma (botany), it ws a link to Stigma (botany)#Shape, where it explains the term in reference to the shape of the stigma in the first sentence. I have retargeted to Glossary of botanical terms#capitate--Nessie (talk) 18:28, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What are the grains?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:11, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Grains of pollen. In many species the pollen grains cluster, but in this species they do not. --Nessie (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You should say that   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  04:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I did . --Nessie (talk) 17:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No you didn't, you only said "The pollen grains are monad, and do not cluster"   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:55, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. Do you want it to say something like "The pollen grains, which are individual grains of pollen, are monad, and do not cluster"? I'm not sure what is confusing here. --Nessie (talk) 02:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Say "In many species the pollen grains cluster"   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  15:18, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • You really should put the technical term in parentheses rather than the explanation of the technical term. Normally I wouldn’t see it as a problem but my brain is getting thrown around by all the parentheses, but that's just me and you don't have to do it. I will say though if you wikilink a botanical term you should still give a brief explanation of what it is in parentheses (like with glabrous and cymes)   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  16:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think I could succinctly define a cyme without a picture, and I think adding a diagram would confuse the article. I added an explanation for glabrous. --Nessie (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The clade Palatadurio has not been given a rank, according to the information in the source. It may end up being a subgenus, section, or series. --Nessie (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I broke the sentence up for clarity. --Nessie (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if it is bright, in the copyrighted images I have seen it does not seem very radiant in tone. Plus, wouldn't that be uncited opinion? --Nessie (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
it’s not OR to describe a picture. Quoting a source as saying it’s “lipstick red” does not help in describing it because it’s not an actual shade of red   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  04:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think it does describe the picture. As the Lipstick article states, there was only one shade for decades. If you do an image search you see the same color. --Nessie (talk) 17:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
All teas are tisanes, but not all tisanes are teas. I added an explanation of sayur. --Nessie (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Moved out of lede. --Nessie (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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