Talk:Dune Messiah

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"Dune Messiah Feels Like a First Draft". Wired. February 24, 2023. Retrieved February 24, 2023.

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Why do we need to know what the illustrious Spider Robinson thinks of various Dune novels? One man's opinion does not a reception make.--172.190.85.94 (talk) 04:42, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reception is as reception does. Dig up reviews from other RSs if you dislike Robinson so much. --Gwern (contribs) 14:32, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had never heard of him, frankly, nor do I as yet understand the point of having one man reception sections for Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. All by themselves they just seem rather odd, with a random sci-fi author offering (self-satisfied) critiques of another's work.--172.190.125.140 (talk) 04:37, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Spider Robinson's only reception feels more like a promotion of his personal page on Dune's wiki. Spider Robinson, please do not include personal promotional sections such as these here. Mods, please exclude Spider Robinson's IP from making changes to the Dune wiki pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.90.103.151 (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Something is missing here

It is very much worth noting (and currently missing in this article) that Dune Messiah was a significant disappointment to many fans of Dune. It may not be unusual for a beloved first book to be followed by sequels which many fans consider not worth reading, but this must be an extreme case because of both degree of the original Dunes influence, fandom, and permeation of our culture, and the degree of dislike for the follow ups.

This should go into the reception section, which currently includes just two quotes praising Dune Messiah. Where are the haters? There are plenty out there. The current version of this section is not an accurate picture of the reception of this book. Maxjmuller (talk) 22:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you able to point to a reliable source that establishes this disappointment? If so I'm happy to incorporate it.— TAnthony^Talk 15:47, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But I've had trouble finding this sort of thing for Dune articles in the past.— TAnthony^Talk 20:31, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]