Talk:Dundalk F.C./GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Okay, taking a look now. I will copyedit as I go - please revert me if I inadvertently change the meaning. Questions below: cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

• Is this still a thing? Them the highest ranking club in Europe?
  • Highest ranked Irish side. Have tried to clarify further in prose.

• The very last sentence in the lead comes across as promotional. I'd convert it into timeline and drop mention of the centenary. Also avoid one sentence paras
  • Added to History section under 2019 season and edited.

• The article is not that big and could have double the size of prose before there is a real problem with size. I say this because reading the history section has an incomplete feel in places - e.g. why/how did they become independent of G.N.R.?
  • Was afraid it was too big and broke History out to History of Dundalk F.C.. Have put more relevant material back in to address comments below.

• The club was inactive again in the 1917-18 and 1918-19 seasons - I presume from WWI but should be added
  • Yes, done.

• ...steered Dundalk to a ninth 'miracle' League title in 1994-95. - why "miracle", let facts speak for themselves rather than have commentary like this.
  • Citation quoted source for use of 'miracle', but have removed.

• But the capital debt became a millstone around the neck of the club, nearly dragging it under in the early 1970s. - needs a reference, also could do with some clarification and expansion.
  • Done.

• Dundalk hired English player/manager John Smith ahead of the 1973-74 season - from where?
  • Walsall F.C. added to clarify.

• But by the early 1990s Dundalk were in severe financial trouble,[18] with attendances declining and operating costs far outstripping club revenue. - needs another ref and some explanation
  • explained and citations added.

• But Keely's title success could not halt the decline. - so they were steadily declining throughout this period of success or did that happen later?
  • Decline started around 1992 and trend was downwards to relegation in 1999 despite title in 1995. Have rewritten to clarify.

• FYI, Cardiff City F.C. was recently promoted to Featured Article status, so I recommend following the layout of that (i.e. the honours section where it is looks odd as it breaks up the prose.)
  • Thanks, have used it as a template and moved sections accordingly.

Anyway, a good basis for a good article and shouldn't take too much fixing Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:16, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

• • Thank you User:Sexitoni) 12:03, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

• The crest disappeared from the playing shirts by 1930 for unrecorded reasons, but presumably as a cost saving measure. - does Murphy speculate about this? If so say so, if not, best remove.
  • Yes, edited and added appropriate citation

• The last para of the Rivalries section is unreferenced. Rivalries seem to be contentious on many club pages, so sourcing needed here.
  • edited para down to single verifiable claim with citation.

• Okay moving on. No copyvio detected (a good thing!).

• Are there no possible photos of the fellers running around on the field kicking the football? Maybe reaching out to some folks that have been taking some snaps on flickr (looks like they've all tagged as "all rights reserved").? Note that this ain't a dealbreaker as if we can't get then we can't get - it'd just be nice....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

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2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:

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3. Broad in coverage?:

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4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:

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5. Reasonably stable?

No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:

Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

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Pass or Fail: - great, well done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for the time you invested and helpful comments. Much appreciated User:Sexitoni 07:45, 25 June 2019