Talk:Dulcian

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Some very odd stuff seems to have crept in to this page

nomenclature: the entire equivalent terms sentence is unnecessary, except to perhaps mention that "curtal" is an equivalent English word, and that confusingly, Italian printed music of the period just calls it a "fagotto"

the "douçaine" is a different instrument altogether

"superseded by the baroque bassoon" - "baroque" is unnecessary

could do with mentioning the connection with the German organ stop "dulzian"

there is a paper - I think on the IDRS archive - that argues about the co-existence of the bass shawm and the dulcian - by Bob Cronin from memory

91.84.104.229 (talk) 16:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Era of usage

I have tagged the following statement as {{dubious}} and was wondering whether a source could be found to back it up:

"...although it continued to be used in Spain until early in the twentieth century".

If this was the case, I would think that far more examples of dulcians would survive than just a few very old ones. Passengerpigeon (talk) 21:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Doucaine" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Doucaine. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Passenger pigeon (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]