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Great Big Sea version

The Great Big Sea version mentioned in the article sounds like it has a verse not listed on the page (put him in the back of the penny wagon or somesuch). If anybody can tell exactly what they're singing, could you add it? 129.237.90.24 21:36, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Done. StoneRaven 14:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Up she rises referring to vomit

I was always told that the line: "up she rises", referred to the drunken sailor's vomit. I'm serious, this is not pointless vandalism. 196.203.157.180 18:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's referring to the motion of the waves, although it might be suggesting nausea.--RLent 20:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I thought it was the rising of the sail of whatever they're actually hoisting while singing this, IE. a fourth wall breakage. 68.39.174.238 15:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
I was under the impression it was the anchor they were raising, per the history section. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 07:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
How on Earth did I answer myself? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 05:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Up she rises: quite a different interpretation!

According to Alan Coren on some radio show (the information came from his wife), it is none of those things. It is actually a woman's naughty song about a man who has brewer's droop. I'm sure the ladies who played the piano at school did not know that. Man with two legs (talk) 20:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

A reference of a sort: [1] (it's a bit long, so search for the word "coren") Man with two legs (talk) 02:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Here is the relevant bit:
Dr Anne Coren of London explains its meaning in a letter to The Times (Saturday 28th January 2006) in which she tells us that the shanty is all about the condition of bosun’s droop whose colloquial equivalent, the drunken sailor, was coined by the working women of Portsmouth, referring not to the tar himself but to that part of his anatomy most affected by a night of heavy drinking about which, as the song says, nothing can be done on the morning after. “Unless, that is, a bit of TLC care is administered by the woman”, she writes, “whereupon the cure is greeted with the cry ‘Hey, ho, and up she rises, hey, ho, and up she rises, hey, ho, and up she rises, early in the morning!’
Man with two legs (talk) 17:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Up she rises: capstan shanty

acording to drunken sailor (http://www.contemplator.com/sea/sailor.html) "According to the The Burl Ives Song Book the song is representative of capstan chanties. The shanty was a tune designed to aid sailors in their work... The capstan chanty [sic was a moderate tune sung to raising the anchor. In order to raise the anchor bars were inserted into the capstan and sailors would walk around it, turning the capstan to raise the anchor. Sailors would stamp on the deck on the words 'Way Hay and Up She Rises.'" in other words it is talking about an anchor! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.239.114.35 (talk) 17:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Any of these could be wrong. What is needed is some explanation of why the sources think they are correct. Man with two legs (talk) 13:20, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The link to "Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Online article about use of "Drunken Sailor" by Toyota and the NFL" at the end of the article is broken. Not knowing exact behaviour in this case I didn't remove it. Maybe a regular can do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.56.4.213 (talk) 10:43, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Shostakovich

Text says citation needed. This WP article is explicit, but of course that's self referencing! Easy to hear the theme here.Shtove (talk) 17:46, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

It's What SHALL we... not ...SHOULD...!

If you guys really feel like putting an alias in the article (I mean the intro section) then please use a common title. I've never heard the "What should we..." bit until I came here. It's really a rare variation of singing it. If you don't sing "What'll we do..." you sing "What shall we do", but "should"? I don't think so, sounds a bit made up. -andy 77.7.97.125 (talk) 22:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)