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Early Dravidian religion existed only in Tamil country?

It is still present in Karnataka,Andhra,Kerala,Maharashtra,Konkan including Goa.The worship of anthill,water,trees,holy forests,possession, is still found in all above mentioned regions.Though some aspect of it is Brahminised as the course of time.So please do necessary changes.

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The above information gives a pretty good idea on all basic aspects of religion that flourished in subcontient which influenced and shaped eachother for millenniums. Present religions (Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism) and Historic religions (Charvaka, Sramana, Ajivika, Indus religion) all share very common roots. I understand that it's in info box but it needs to be in 'see also' for easy access. It's important we add this information to give basic idea about what shaped religion as we know today in subcontinent.

@59.93.72.8: The sidebar is already present for easy access. There's also a see also section for other links. Linking to every other religion in India is, IMO, quite pointless and distracting in a section header. Please obtain consensus here before reverting again. Thanks. --Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 16:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not pointless, it's logic. Read the first paragraph, these religions took shape as Indo-Aryans and Dravidians came into contact with eachother. It's not about linking every relgion but it gives basic idea on influences these religions and philosophy had in Indian subcontinent through millenniums, This page does not give full information on vast aspects of religion and philosophy that shaped subcontinent. I hope you understand because it's not just about Hinduism here.

There is no mention of Durga in the given source because it was added by me last month, I added Durga for time-being to give basic understanding for the reader because History of Shaktism was still in works. We do need to add Shaktism because Durga, as we know her today took shape in purnic era but ultimately has orgins in shaktism but Durga is just one aspect of Shaktism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.72.8 (talk) 17:28, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's what the sidebar is for. I've moved all the other links to the see also section. The huge cluster of links is out of place in the history section. Thanks. --Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 03:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I understand. I'll just link them through paragraphs where it's already mentioned i guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.203.142 (talk) 05:10, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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@Kautilya3: Please keep and eye on this page, there has been repeated vandalism, POV essay, removal of academic sources for past few months. I have restored as much as possible. 117.198.114.24 (talk) 22:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3:. @Joshua Jonathan: please look into this vandalism, He (212.241.98.39} has removed several academic sources, replacing it with dubious sources with POV references that is not mentioned in given articles ex: dravidian university link. He has also removed academic quotes proveded regrading cultural synthesis and linguistic influences between early Indo-Aryan and Dravidian. He (212.241.98.39} also seems to be vandalizing various pages. 117.198.244.141 (talk) 03:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Look carefully, I did not delete any references. You are keeping to delete them with your hindu-pov. (See Tamil Version for comparison). Also I did not delete the synthesis and linguistic influences, it was only moved down into a own section (see:^[1]). Start to read the article and not blindly revert and edit furiously. Everything is referenced and the edit history makes it clear that you are deleting a large amount of content.—212.241.98.39 (talk) 07:35, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to reply to your bizarre accusations. 1. Intro is poorly written with dubious sources and POV claims. This sentence is very poorly written "Gods and other spirits are not separate from nature or humanity, but possessing positive and negative, good and evil characteristics. There is also evidence that a form of shamanism and spirit possession was part of the ancient Dravidian religion." it's also not found in your given source "Dravidian university" link. 2. The Hindu news link is reliable as it talks about "Ancient Dravidian civilization mingled with the Vedic religion from north to result in the complex multi-layered faith we find in current times" it's close to various academic sources. 3. There is no consensus on whether their beliefs included after-life or reincarnation, only that these believes developed during process of cultural synthesis that took place.10:57, 27 October 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.246.107 (talk)

Comment - Responding to pings. I am not going to get involved here because I know very little about the subject. But here are some suggestions:

Both of you would be better off registering accounts, because we can't easily tell who is saying what with unregistered IP's, which keep changing as well.
Quit making accusations at each other. Terms like "POV" and "vandalism" etc. are not conducive to generating consensus.
Add the content to the body of the article first, so that we can all read it and make sure that it is well-sourced and verifiable.
Once consensus is reached on the content, then it can be summarised in the lead. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:33, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]