Talk:Drag Race Italia season 2/Archive 1

Archive 1

Image for infobox?

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Anyone able to add title card or promotional artwork to the infobox? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:40, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I think we should wait to see WOW Rectangular banner, since now we have just the square one. If we don't have nothing after the premiere we can use that imo. --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 6:00, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I added the promotional poster of the season and the missing templates and tables :) --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 9:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 11:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Editwar

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@Another Believer: Can someone please can protect this page since ther is some IP (but the same them) that vandalise this page despite being warned four times... --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 22:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

I've requested temporary page protection. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

@Another Believer: How is going the protection, since the IP is still continue to vandalise the page? I mean, I'm trying my best, but after six warning templates on seven different IP adresses, it's kinda hard to stop him since they're litellry undo every single edit writing the same quote about using a wrong link that is not suitable about what are we looking for... It kinda reminds me the same situation we had on the page of fouth series of UK. --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 09:55, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

You can view the request at Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Drag_Race_Italia_(season_2). Sorry there's not more I can do since I'm not an admin. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 11:46, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect informations

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@Another Believer and 151.57.23.14: (It's hard to ping them since they're change evrytime) Since the IP is still adding incorrect infos, since they were debunked by contestant themself on the first episode and on The Meet the Queen.

We can justify a month-old biography as a pillar with respect to the claims made by the same person? (since it also continues to change even the ages that have been updated.

Also because we have a note stating that the data is related to the time of participation, since La Diamond lived and, ACTUALLY, lives in Rome, Lazio... Why we have to change that city to the one where she was born? Drag is not done as soon as they are born imho.

So I am here to respect the wikiproject of wiki.en by fixing al page, notwithstanding the IP has been warned over four times aand ignoring them. --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 18:58, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Please see the wikipedia guidelines. Wikipedia is based on the sources. Official sources state something else. Yours is a personal point of view (and your personal point of view is not a source for wikipedia). So wikipedia is not a blog. Your interventions are very questionable especially as regards the motivations. We have opened more than one discussion on this [1] and [2]--151.57.23.14 (talk) 19:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

As mentioned earlier, if the source is debunked by more recent information and confirmed by the direct stakeholders, there is no point in keeping it if all it does since then is just mispreading information.

Also because the phantom note she uses mentions that La Diamondo is still working in Rome, which requires the note above the table of contestants. Otherwise if we follow the same logic as you we should put Panthera Virus's hometown as Frosinone (since she was born there), instead of Firenze where she worked for the last ten year, same as La Diamond.

Therefore imho, I think you've been banking on this statement despite the fact that if we see all the others have "the same problem" that you cite, but coincidentally only La Diamond has this controversy for you... --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 19:28, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a blog. You didn't understand that we rely on sources. We enter information based on sources. Official sources do not state what you claim. ok? did you understand? So the sources are crucial. We cannot rely on what you stand for. We respect your personal point of view (pov). But this is your personal point of view and is not a source for wikipedia. You question the official source without bringing any evidence to support your position. Your statements are self-referential. ok? did you understand the problem? In addition to this, your motivations in the various interventions (viewable in the chronology) present very questionable reasons). Change the facts very quickly. All of this highlights that your interventions are very questionable and very curious.--151.57.23.14 (talk) 19:55, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm just sayin that, after read well the source since I'm Italian too (and there is that Meet the Queens that we are talking about), clearly says what I have been saying from the beginning, originally from Caltanisetta but that her current hometown is Rome. So the problem is not my version of the facts, but that you, who before this discussion had avoided dialogue with your 12 previous IPs, are now fixated on a position justify "THE SOURCE," when it in the reality of the facts says the same version of the facts as I do in reality. So leaving aside the third personal attack on me, which I keep advising you to avoid before you get a permanent block from those in charge, I think all this fuss is getting out of hand over something unjustified. Since as I repeat, Yes sources are important and I never said anything about it, but you have to read them well at the bottom at this point, since at the end he says he is in Rome at time of filming, as specified in the Contestants Table. --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 22:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Or at least if we really need to put the other city, cause this thing is literally draining my soul from exhaustion, we can try to at least respect the Drag Race WikiProject rules? That means adding only the name of the city (without the province since the wiki link automatically links everything, besides being unsightly compared to the other nine boxes). So it should be just like this [Riesi - Sicily]. --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 23:22, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

For all those who read this discussion it is essential to clarify the story:

1) As I explained to you in the other posts, wikipedia has guidelines. These guidelines are key to contributing to wikipedia. Fundamental topic of the wikipedia guidelines are the use of sources to contribute to the project. Ok? Did you understand?

Let's take the example of competitor Diamond. This is the change [3] and this is the official source [4] , I report the text in Italian:

"Trentaquattro anni, La Diamond è una drag queen originaria di Riesi, un paese in provincia di Caltanissetta. Eclettica e coloratissima, è senza dubbio una delle drag più conosciute e apprezzate in Italia non solo per il suo talento sul palco e per la sua bellezza, ma anche per la sua fama di abilissima stilista di tutto rispetto "; 

Now I'm reporting it in English:

"Thirty-four years old, La Diamond is a drag queen originally from Riesi, a town in the province of Caltanissetta. Eclectic and colorful, she is undoubtedly one of the best known and most appreciated drag players in Italy not only for her talent on stage and for her beauty, but also for her reputation as a highly respected skilled stylist.".

So the text states that she is originally from Riesi in the province of Caltanissetta. It does not say that she is originally from Rome. Ok, do you understand?

2) You challenged the official source without bringing any evidence to support your position. Your position is self-referential. Yours is a personal point of view (pov). Wikipedia is based on sources and not on the peronal views of users. In a nutshell, I repeat that wikipedia is not a blog. The official source is available online. So it is there for all to see. This is an open discussion due to the edit war, which also led to the block page. As I have already explained to you, personal attacks are something else (see here [5]). The personal attacks are those that you have made against me, such as in the previous discussion or in the reasons that can be viewed in the history of the Drag race Italy season 2 page (see here [6]).

3)You have contested the official online verifiable source and you keep changing the story. But there is another source recently and updated: This is the online newspaper of the Università degli Studi Niccolò Cusano of Rome and has published an article concerning the competitors of Drag race italia season 2, see here [7]. Here is the text in Italian about the competitor Diamond:

"La Diamond: 34 anni, di Riesi in provincia di Caltanissetta, eclettica e coloratissima, porta con sé tanta voglia di mettersi in gioco con ironia e divertimento.

Now I report it in English:

"The Diamond: 34 years old, from Riesi in the province of Caltanissetta, eclectic and colorful, brings with it a great desire to get involved with irony and fun"

Even this verifiable online source, recently published by a University newspaper (of Rome), confirms the official source and my position.

4) So do you want to take note of the situation? Can you make the effort to understand what all wikipedians think or anyone reading this discussion across the planet? You want to understand that you pretend to be right on the basis of personal point of view without bringing evidence and consequently, that you have no credibility .. it is not difficult to understand.

5) For me it is okay to insert [Riesi - Sicily] in the text.--151.43.224.65 (talk) 00:15, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Fine let's do this so we can say over about this, so can don't have to do this thatre anymore, even tho there was so many attack that I leterally loose the count. --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 00:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks and happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:20, 1 March 2023 (UTC)