Talk:Dr. Martens/Archives/2016

Skinhead violence

[[Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg -->|thumb|165px|right|Skinheads in 1960s]] I'm offended by your statement that skinheads word red docs to hide victims blood. There may have been a small minority that were like this. Skins are what kept doc martens alive and kicking for years. Doc martens own book on their history plays much more lip service to the skins and also gives a more truth based overview of the skinhead subculture.

It sickens my heart each and everytime someone mentions skinheads and feels that they must make no mention of what skins are and were, instead they feel the need to jab the knife deeper into a group of people who have been cast aside as racist thugs. The majority of skins are infact not racist. Skinheads of all races and nationalities are living in most countries of the world and are proud of their working class roots. Please do more research on skins before rudely implying that they are all criminals.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vugluskr (talk • contribs) 10:27, 8 December 2005‎ (UTC)

Besides which, the allegation is based on a factual error: dried blood is brown, not red.

Nuttyskin 05:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, as an American, the mentioning of Dr. Martens with skinheads twice in this article struck me as odd. You see, in my opinion, it seems that in America, Skinhead means "Neo Nazi." Our dictionaries tend to support this. Connecting that subculture with a German-founded company was an easy connection and I got a little confused. Now that I actually read the Skinhead article on Wikipedia and see that outside of my country, the movement had a different meaning, I come back here and ask someone more knowledgeable about the subject to straighten out this article somehow so that it is clear that you are not saying "These boots were made popular by racist kids wanting to wear improved versions of WWII German boots." CSZero (talk) 00:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm told by the person who's family used to make Dr Martens Tredair that tbe last shape was WWII allied army-boot-shape at the time, a shape with a sole curved-up at the front so that it rolls without the need to flex the bones of the foot while marching. Similar to hiking boots. But I don't know what the shape symbolised to the people who chose to buy DMs in shops in the US decades later.Veganline (talk) 19:06, 22 February 2014 (UTC)