Talk:Dr. Martens/Archives/2014

Proposed Page Overhaul

I'm doing this as a university assignment, any input would be appreciated.

I plan to add sections for the 1960’s period of the boot and the 1970’s period of the boot, as well as the 1980’s and 1990’s if time permits. I plan to draw information for these sections primarily from Martin Roach’s 2003 book Dr. Martens: The Story of an Icon. For more recent history, such as location of all stores, recent advertising campaigns, recent collaborations, and recent sale (as of January 2014), I will reference various websites. I plan to also take existing information and divide it into more easily digestible sections from the singular “History” section that currently exists. I also plan to include relevant information pertaining to the Solovair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solovair) and Tredair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tredair) companies, and the link those articles, as well as the British Boot Company page. Francesvhale — Preceding undated comment added 05:36, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Who owns the brand these days?

Some info about who owns the brand would be welcome. --moof 08:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Still "R.Griggs", as far as I know --Vugluskr

Seems true. They have a lot at www.ipo.gov.uk like trade marks for the brand. Doubt the process is covered by patent. A similar question: I saw a legal report about Griggs v Blundell in Australia. I think it said that the Funck / Maertens Trade Mark and Patent Association had written the licences to plenty of factories up until about '85, when Griggs bought exlusivity rights to something - probably the name Doc Martens and similar - and tried to end other licences. This seems to contradict the sense of Wiki article's "bought the patent" implying exlusivity for the name and process but I can't find the reference. All I've seen since is something about watches licenced by Funck / Maertens Trade Mark and Patent Association. Veganline (talk) 10:39, 4 September 2009 revised 21.02.14 (UTC)

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU000059089

https://plus.google.com/115255410250885526628/about?gl=uk&hl=en

Looks like the Funck / Maertens Trade Mark and Patent Association changed its name on trade mark applications to Dr. Martens International Trading GmbH and Dr. Martens International Marketing GmbH Seeholzenstraße 1, 82166 Gräfelfing, Germany. R Grigg's main trademark remains Airwear, but there are a lot of other registrations by them as well. They also try to claim things like exclusive right to use yellow stitching, which I think has been thrown-out in the courts. Veganline (talk) 18:55, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Vegetarian Doc Martens before 2000

Hi. In the article it's stated that Doc Martens started making vegetarian/vegan models from January 2000. Actually, I can recall seeing those as early as 1997. I couldn't tell which year the actual production started though, but I'm almost 100% sure the different pairs I saw back then were Dr Martens and vegetarian. If anyone has some info on this I'd be very interested! Thanks. --Cheekychico 11:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)Cheekychico

An anecdotal account isn't enough to justify adding it to the article. There are no reliable references that support your claim.--Metalhead94 (talk) 20:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Are you talking to me? I don't want to add this to the article I'm asking for people's infos so it can be added to the article —Preceding Cheekychico comment added by Special:Contributions/Cheekychico (talk) 10:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

You could get info from the Vegetarian Shoes web site or write Mr Robin Webb a letter. He was the first person to sell veggie DMs. Veganline (talk) 10:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

After all these years I've finally found information that confirmed my personal experience. Dr Martens produced non-leather vegetarian/vegan versions of their shoes including the classic 1460 boot to the company Vegetarian Shoes of Brighton, UK from circa 1992~93. This was confirmed to me by the owner and founder of Vegetarian Shoes, Mr Robin Webb himself, via personal communication. There are also plenty of newspaper cuttings from the 90s in which you can see the vegetarian Dr Martens he sold, here: http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/images/uploaded/press/bbcvegetarian.gif http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/images/uploaded/press/timesmay1994.gif http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/images/uploaded/press/thetimesmar1993.gif http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/images/uploaded/press/footweardigest.gif http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/images/uploaded/press/dailyexpressjune1996.gif

As such, I've edited the article. Cheekychico15:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I found, August 15 2012, a website that claims to sell Dr. Marten's vegan line of shoes at Zappos: http://www.zappos.com/dr-martens-1461-vegan-3-eye-gibson-cherry-red#prdInfo

• Enjoy the classic styling and quality of Dr. Martens®, with the friendly nature of the Vegan Gibson.
• Part of the Vegan Collection.
• Vegan-friendly.
• Upper is made from a non-leather, synthetic

As such, this would imply that it IS possible to find newly-made vegan-friendly Doc Marten's shoes in the USA.

• MaynardClark (talk)

Off the subject a bit, Tredair which was an over-lapping brand with DMs until about 1985 produced their first batch of vegan boots in 1998. I might still have the receipt somewhere. John Robertson , trading as http://Veganline.com and selling vegan shoes online since 19985.66.78.19 (talk) 13:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Madness' Single

Specifically, which single was it, by Madness, that had the Dr. Martens as cover art?

the Business album has Dr. Martens as the cover art