Talk:Doria (family)

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Doria-Pamphili-Landi was copied or moved into Doria (family) with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Superfluous (and highly subjective) personal information

The part about the living family memebers has to be cleaned up ASAP.

Requested move 20 January 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Based on the strength of oppose arguments and no support arguments. (closed by non-admin page mover) Mario Jump 83! 10:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Doria (family) → Doria
Doria → Doria (disambiguation)

– Almost all search results lead to this family or their members. Move current "Doria" to a disambiguation page, same format as in the Italian Wiki mirror page. Gryffindor (talk) 09:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Doria titles a dab page with significant content and so is ineligible as a new target title unless it is also proposed to be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 00:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per "Doria was" test In ictu oculi (talk) 18:03, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is definitely a sensible proposal, and looking at the contents of the dab page it does look as though the family is the most prominent of the entries. However, that's not what readers are looking for:

Data

Source	Destination	type	Referrals
Doria	João_Doria	link	20
Doria	Dorian	other	12
Doria	Dória	link	40
Doria	Doria_(family)	link	47
Doria	Yōshoku	link	572
Doria	Italian_ship_Andrea_Doria	link	15

This is from clickstream data for November. It includes all source-destination pairs with 10 or more hits for the month. The pageviews for the dab page alone for the same period are at [1].

For the month of November, over 500 visitors of the dab page clicked on Doria (food) (which redirects to a mention within Yōshoku). That's about half of all visitors of the dab page, and more than ten times the number who followed the link to Doria (family). – Uanfala (talk) 17:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just fyi: page views seem to support your first claim; however, they don't appear to support that the number of readers who visited the food link was ten times the number who visited the family link within the last 90 days, to include November. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 20:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The information for how many readers have followed each link on the dab page is directly available from the clickstream dataset I've linked above (you can see the recent RM at Talk:Kilburn, London for how that works). They're not contradicted by the pageviews in your link (maybe I need to clarify that the table above gives the numbers for the whole month?). Generally, pageviews allow only limited, indirect, inferences about usage – this is because only a small fraction of the total traffic for a title comes from the dab page (Wikipedia:Pageviews and primary topics has some info about that). – Uanfala (talk) 21:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clickstream's a bit too "clunky" for my taste. Good analysis overall, though! P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 08:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.