Talk:Dor Yeshorim

With

With DY having no web presence, does anyone have a useful source that can be cited with respect to the diseases that DY tests for? JFW | T@lk 09:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Rate of Carriers

Is there any information about how this policy affects the rate of carriers? I assume in the hypothetical case of a match a couple might decide not to have children. In the case of someone testing positive for 4 or more of the 10 diseases he or she will have a more difficult time finding a partner. Unless a study proves different it'd be best to state that the impact on the rate of carriers is unknown. --Zero g 18:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Choosing not to have children is not an option. First, for the most part, it's against Halacha, but more importantly Dor Yesharim only tests people prior to marriage. To your second concern, carriers are not so common in the population. So a carrier is not going to have such a hard time findind a non carrier to marry. The high incidence in the population is a relative thing (cmopared to other populations). If anything this test will increase! the carrier rate - this is because children who actually have the illness (and typically do not reproduce), are replaced with 2 children who each are carriers, and who pass it on. Ariel. 12:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

In the Dor Yeshorim era, there are only two types of couples: one partner a carrier, or zero partners a carrier. For one-carrier couples, the proportion of children who are carriers is 50% on average, equal to the proportion of the parents. For zero-carrier couples, the proportion of children who are carriers is zero, also equal to the proportion of the parents. So the proportion of carriers is preserved from one generation to the next. But active occurrence of the disease is eliminated.StormWillLaugh (talk) 23:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Cost

I think the page should mention that Dor Yeshorim charges money for testing. Also, it should explain that not only is testing anonymous, it is forced-anonymous. In other words, it is impossible for those tested to get their own test results. This means that if someone is told they are not compatible, they must pay a real medical professional to get the same test results DY has on file, since DY will absolutely not give them their own results. 12:15, 05 Jan 2008 (EST)

In the current version of this article, that is fixed.StormWillLaugh (talk) 15:06, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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I see that a rationale has been added.StormWillLaugh (talk) 22:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Website

The official website link goes to a domain which does not exist. Perhaps the website has been moved, or shut down. Either way, this article now needs new citations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueshield925 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I noticed, thanks. Cybersquatters are despicable. JFW | T@lk 10:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

In the current version of this article, that is fixed.StormWillLaugh (talk) 15:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Papers

PMID 11596991 describes the DY methodology; it is co-authored by Ekstein himself. JFW | T@lk 10:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

PMID 11170098 suggests genetic screening is better than enzymatic determination in Tay Sachs. JFW | T@lk 10:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Dor Yeshorim actively funds scientific research on genetic testing. This page on their site lists (currently) 20 published papers, all of which have Josef Ekstein as one of the co-authors: https://doryeshorim.org/research-publications/ It would be a good idea to gather together the references to all these papers and and list them in a Research section in this article.StormWillLaugh (talk) 16:52, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

monopoly

It is essentiality a monopoly It has managed to achieve this monopoly by aggressive marketing and scare tactics. It is a multi million business by charging outrages fees to frightened parents who feel it a duty to take this test. Similar tests are available at a fraction of the price charged by Dor Yeshorim

See link to their methods

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/Dor%20Yeshorim%20Australia%20Warning-1.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.72.21 (talk) 13:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Most of these accusations are dubious and unfounded. The only thing that is true is that it is a monopoly - it is true that this is the only service preventing serious diseases caused by recessive genes in the Orthodox Jewish community by offering strongly anonymized testing with very convenient (for this community) options for sample submission. Part of the reason for its great success is the fact that it is a monopoly. If for each prospective partner you would need to initiate a new genetic testing process depending on which service the two sides agree upon before you go out on the first date, it would create prohibitive delays and would fall into disuse. I can report that there is no perception at all in the community that the fees are too high. It is unfair to compare prices of other testing options that do not offer all the surrounding services tailored to the community provided by Dor Yeshorim. I have never met anyone in the community who hinted in any way that they use the service out of "fear" - everyone highly appreciates this amazing service that has saved so much suffering and heartbreak for so many thousands of people.StormWillLaugh (talk) 14:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

History section

Was there something deleted from the start of the "History" section? It begins by stating "In a 2006 interview, Ekstein revealed..." without ever explaining who Ekstein is. --114.77.41.5 (talk) 13:56, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

In the current version of this article, that is fixed.StormWillLaugh (talk) 15:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)