Talk:Don Cornelius
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[edit]I have removed the "Career" section because it was a copy vio of the Soul Train Story page at soultrain.com. -- Mikeblas 14:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the same is true for the "History" section; it was pasted from [1] as well. Please see WP:Copyright violations for more information. -- Mikeblas 14:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Don Cornelius
[edit]Don Cornelius Favorite Songs "Le Freak" By Chic,"You And I" By Rick James,"Give It What You Got" By B.T. Express,"Got To Get You Into My Life" By Earth,Wind And Fire,"Slide" By Slave,"Give Up The Funk (Tear The Roof Off The Sucker)" By Parliament,"Every Time I Turn Around (Back In Love Again)" By L.T.D.,"The Groove Line" By Heatwave,"Papa Was A Rolling Stone" By The Temptations,"Fancy Dancer" By Commodores,"Don't Leave Me This Way" By Thelma Houston,"Running Away" By Roy Ayers And "Get The Funk Out Ma Face" By The Brothers Johnson.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Funderburkeuuu (talk • contribs) 01:57, 27 April 2008
Trivia section
[edit]'*Cornelius is mentioned by rapper Ice Cube in Scarface's song "Hand of the Dead Body".'
It's not exactly a flattering reference. He calls him a "house nigger." 24.148.64.192 (talk) 06:32, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Date of Death (2010 rumor)
[edit]I have not heard of, nor am I able to find any reference on any other site to Don Cornelius's death. It is not even mentioned in the article only in the infobox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benvking (talk • contribs) 16:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- Please note, this comment was added in 2010, and is referring to a probable rumor at that time. any comments about his actual death in 2012 should go below.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Death
[edit]http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/01/don-cornelius-commits-suicide-dead-died-gunshot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.167.11.254 (talk • contribs)
- CNN is reporting it, although no mention yet of suicide: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/01/showbiz/soul-train-founder/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Rich (talk) 14:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Is the recent deaths tag needed on this article?
[edit]I see that this article has already had the recent deaths tag. I wondered whether it was needed for this one - there was some clarification, some time ago, on Wikipedia that it was only to be used on articles that got viewed very frequently. I recall that this tag soon got removed from the article on Jimmy Savile, and I would be surprised if Jimmy Savile were viewed more seldom than this article. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:12, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- I would say the tag is appropriate, if for no other reason than the man committed suicide. More details about this could come to light. 98.220.135.184 (talk) 00:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- Don't worry, the tag-removing jobsworths will deal with it. Lugnuts (talk) 08:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
The death should not be instantly ruled as "suicide"
[edit]I'm sure the vast majority of bipeds hearing this story across the planet, of whatever language they speak know that Mr. Cornelius' death is highly suspicious!!! The rush to conclusively rule that it was a suicide stinks. Who made this assertion? the police investigators? The media? There should be a full autopsy with public disclosure. Don was going through a bitter divorce, so his white, soon to be ex, is the prime suspect, as is, or should be routine in any investigation. Also, any intimate liaisons (boyfriend, girlfriend, family, lawyer(s)) and her business associates hostile and antagonistic to the murdered husband's. interests. added to this, Don was still in possession of a vast media catalogue and canon worth billions to the combined record and licensing conglomerates. The divorced spouse most likely found herself of the short end of a prenuptual contract that would have frozen her and her cohorts out of the "Soul Train, LLC". Let me continue here, and say that I've been following the very peculiar demise of famous R&B\Soul performers over the past twenty years. Suffice it to say that in Don's case more narrowly, for someone who grew up on the strees of "Chi-Congo" and otherwise developed a mercurial sense of business and survival, I am most surprised that he did not see this one coming; the murder, I mean to say!!! Mr. Shemar Moore should keep his mouth shut until further professional inquests are made! The question remains, who will wind up with the crown jewels of Don's estate, which includes the "Soul Train" media empire, and his music catalog (from "Atlantic Star", etc). --67.86.98.26 (talk) 02:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- That's all very interesting to read, but I can find no sources at this time even speculating that this was a murder. While the talk page of this article can be used to suggest sources, or aspects of the subject to be covered in greater detail, this is NOT the place to note ones own particular speculations on this or any other matter. For now, this is being ruled a noncontroversial suicide. And yes, police statements of suicide are considered generally credible. And, speculation as to who may be a suspect, may i remind you, is considered libel without sources. We CANNOT speculate here on whether any particular person is connected to his death. (I think the talk page is not required to be redacted, though). Ive refactored your comments a bit, no editing of content. I am sure we will get articles on the estate of Mr. Cornelius in the next few months and years.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
"Uncotroversial suicide"? "...Sued for libel"??? Man, what hemisphere of the planet are you from? Obviously, you're a foreigner, with not a clue to the events. As of this writing, not twenty-four hours has yet passed, and the corspe is still "warm", figuratively speaking. You, sir have absolutely NO idea of what passes here in the U.S. for homicide trends. In this country, common sense dictates that when the police inisist on a suicide as conclusive in the first hours after discovery, then there is cause for suspicion that a possible massive "cover-up" is in the works, with the collusion of the mass media, as they too, unilaterally, have agreed (barring all usual journalistic sleuthing)to declare-virually-that this case is closed, even before a corononer's inquest has begun. (Of course you are obviously ignorant of events such as James Earl Ray's conviction and life incaration; that he was never given due process of a court trial for Martin Luther King's murder, on his life-long insistence that he did not fire his weapon. That Nicole Brown Simpon's corpse was disposed of before a proper inquest and autopsy was made. Or, how about your favorite subject: Assassinating Bin Ladin and disposing his corspe at sea so as to deprive the world of the truth (howver unlikely) of his involvment with the ariel suicide bombers of the World Trade Center and The Pentagon?) Probably, it is the case that in your country, there is no true democracy, and you and yours, as "subjects" are typically brow-beaten to accept the "official" decrees by your Ruling class. To paraphrase "Mr T.", "I Pity You, Fool"!
Consider again that Mr. Cornelius was married to a Russian foreigner.(I hate to make stereotypes and cliches, but it does usally follow that such "tarts" are more likely than not tethered in one fashion or another to the Russian Mob. But then again, don't take my word for it. Witness one-time heart-throb Mel Gibson's hapless dealings with his ex). As with these very well documented cases in, especially the U.S. there is the likelihood of foul play involving the spouse, especially when there is a bitter divorce, a huge estate to wrangle over (involving potentially billions of dollars, and a doddering old man who, in his sunset years, and in his third marriage, was not as mindful of his vuneralbility and isolation, as he might have been when he was younger. This same fate befell, Sam Cook, Teddy Pendagrass, Lou Rawls, and a cavaclade of (very wealtlhy) African-American entertainers. But ultimately the authorities here incite suspicion for their hurried actions. --69.119.72.13 (talk) 06:32, 2 February 2012 (UTC)Veryverser
- Are you being serious right now? TaintedMustard (talk) 16:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- lets qoute above: the police inisist on a suicide as conclusive in the first hours after discovery, then there is cause for suspicion that a possible massive "cover-up" is in the works, with the collusion of the mass media, < very rational qoute inisist on a suicide mass media . Motive is imaginably real. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.127.148 (talk) 15:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
time nad calls
[edit]There is another version to vwesion in article.
- He called "distrupted" to his son, son immediately arived and found him deadly vounded. before 4.am. [2]
The death should not be instantly ruled as "suicide"; especialy if endangered father call his son for help . ?ELECTION? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.127.148 (talk) 15:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Proposal: to use this publicity photo
[edit]This photo published by Washington Post of Cornelius with the Staple Singers is indicated as a "publicity photo". Wikimedia Commons has published many publicity photos of entertainers if published without a copyright notice between 1923-1977. One example: File:All in the family october 27 1973.jpg. The Staple Singers appeared on Soul Train three times before 1977. (The image direct URL is here.) Andrewlp1991 (talk) 03:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- I searched Youtube and found this video concluding this photo was from 1974. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 03:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- If not for now I'll use this photo licensed w/Creative Commons on flickr. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 03:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
No mention of his record label?
[edit]There is nothing regarding the Soul Train record label, or of his partnership with music producer Dick Griffey. The Soul Train label was the basis for SOLAR Records, Griffey's successful dance/R&B label in the 1970s and 1980s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOLAR_Records
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