Talk:Dix Township, Ford County, Illinois

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Oregon Cemetery Desecration

The reference to the Oregon Cemetery Desecration should be retained in the township history section, or referenced where the township cemeteries are listed. The book is not fictional, the incident was well publicized in the newspaper in 1997, and upon the publication of the book it continues to receive press attention (example: http://www.paxtonrecord.net/news/arts-and-entertainment/books/2013-05-30/ex-cop-writes-book-about-bizarre-incident-late-1990s.ht) In a township with a population of 600 people, this was not an obscure or un-notable event, and the book is well sourced with exhaustive photographic and documentary references. In fact, this was covered by regional media at the time.166.147.104.166 (talk) 21:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody said the event is obscure and non-notable. The book is obscure, non-notable, and possibly fictional, regardless of the sources it uses. 166.147.104.166 appears to have a conflict of interest regarding the book.

Please see the related conversation on my talk page at User talk:Amatulic#Orgeon Cemetery Desecration Really Happened, detailing why this material was removed and why the book citation won't be restored.

Because this citation was the subject of a recent edit war, this page is protected from editing by IP addresses or unconfirmed accounts. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of how 166.147.104.166 might have a conflict of interest, this book is a hot topic in Dix Township and is a major local history source. It needs to be included in this article.50.80.195.149 (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The facts can be included, but not sourced to that book, for the reasons outlined in the discussion linked above. If the book cites sources, then those sources should be used, not a tertiary source like the book.

The article is now semi-protected indefinitely. Unconfirmed editors should propose any new changes on the talk page. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The remedy for spamming is not to render that source permanently uncitable. Only spamming should be removed, not relevant cites. In any case, it has been well established that the work is neither obscure, non-notable, nor fictional. The cite should be restored for this article. We should assume good will absent articulable suspicion, but hostility to all mention of a particular source suggests that there might be a conflict of interest for the editor.198.229.216.210 (talk) 06:55, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The facts can be cited, no problem. If the book contains cites to reliable sources, then use those sources, which are preferable to a WP:TERTIARY source like this book. If the book is the only source available, then the event isn't worth mentioning. If it isn't the only source, then use those sources.

I am here not as an editor of the article's content, but as an administrator whose job it is to prevent disruption of the Wikipedia project. The messages to OTRS, the legal issues, and the obvious COI of the anonymous IPs who insist on re-inserting a dubious reference are justification enough for protecting this article.

If you want to propose a change, use the {{edit semi-protected}} tag to propose it. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:48, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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