Talk:Disappearances of Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos

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A fact from Disappearances of Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 March 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos went missing months apart after being arrested by the same police officer but never made it to jail?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Disappearance of Terrance Williams & Felipe Santos.

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I've added the BLP banner since this case concerns suspicions about a known living person, and the state of the two missing men is unknown.--Animalparty-- (talk) 00:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Witness statement

The article states: "The other driver in the accident was interviewed by investigators and said that Calkins was very agitated. "He just stated that he was tired of pulling people over that didn't have licenses," she said."

So how does just stating (notice how the witness uses the word JUST?) being tired of doing something equal being VERY agitated. Agitated, okay, but VERY agitated? That seems very POV to me. Please refrase. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.84.175.250 (talk) 18:09, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This was how it was phrased in the show "disappeared". I do not have access to this particular interview and I would assume there was more to the interview than just that one quote. She may have also said that he seemed very agitated as opposed to the show gleaning the agitation solely from that particular statement and I would assume that is what happened. This is not my interpretation of the quote, this is how it was described on the show. Thoughts by anyone else? Bali88 (talk) 18:58, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we can take a look at that TV show, to see exactly what was said. Is it on YouTube or Hulu or somewhere else? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:06, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have it on my DVR, so I know what was said, but you might be able to find it on YouTube or Hulu if you want to check. I went back and checked it after that guy posted, and the detective quoted her as saying he was "agitated". I realized that he didn't say "very", so I removed that word. Bali88 (talk) 05:13, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Order cases are listed in

Felipe Santos is listed as disappearing in 2003, Terrance Williams in 2004. Why is Williams listed first? Wouldn't it make more sense to put the first disappearance first and the second one second? The two missing persons should be treated as equals, not throw in Santos as a footnote to Williams. Critterkeeper (talk) 18:08, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize if I made it seem like a footnote. If there is consensus, we can switch it. I just felt like there were way more details available in the media about Williams' disappearance than Santos' disappearance and I feel that the narrative flowed better starting with Williams because it opened the can of worms, so to speak, and began the investigation.Bali88 (talk)

I had also wondered about this matter. But, on second thought,it makes sense. I think that the Santos case was "no big deal" at first. Then, when the Williams case later happened, it opened up the can of worms ... and placed a microscope on the earlier Santos case. So,only after the Williams case became a "big deal", did the Santos case (subsequently) become a "big deal". Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Size of reward

The article says twice that Tyler Perry offered a $200,000 reward for tips on the cases, but in the Investigation Discovery programme "Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall" (which I happened to watch this morning) the reward is said (again twice) to be $100,000 - the first time by Perry himself when announcing it in public, to a standing ovation, and the second time by Hall ("$100,000 of your own money?") when interviewing Perry, who confirms the amount. Perry surely knew just how much he offered, and in both cases he was filmed confirming it in person - he was not played by an actor.188.230.240.75 (talk) 10:13, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea. But, is it possible that Tyler Perry offered a $100,000 for each of the two cases? That is, two separate rewards of $100,000 each ... for a total of $200,000 ... maybe that's the situation? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I spoke with Nashville Police Cold Case Unit today.

They agreed to look in to the possibility that their John Doe 2003, Hispanic Male recently sketched by Carl Koppelman, being a match to Felipe Santos.

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Album The Missing and Unidentified

Carl Koppelman

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19h • G

I did this reconstruction (and one other that I posted a few days ago) last month at the request of a detective from the Metro Nashville PD.

2003 - Murphreesboro Pike, Tennessee.

On Thursday, December 11, 2003, the body of a man was discovered inside a recycling truck that was emptying its cargo of of cardboard at the Rivergate Recycling center near Nashville, Tennessee. His death was caused by crushing injuries from the truck's compactor.

Based on the material found around him, police believe he entered the truck near a restaurant in

Murfreesboro Pike, Tennessee. The man carried no identification.

He is described as Hispanic, 5 feet 8 inches tall, in his mid-20s to mid-30s, with straight dark hair, a goatee and no 2601:700:8000:CF00:AD5B:D68B:E9E3:859 (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]