Talk:Dirk

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Dirk became more widely used than is indicated in this article. The naval use of dirk needs expanding and they were also used by the Army on occassion (see quotation in 1796 Pattern British Infantry Officer's Sword ) I'll chase up some references and add to this article Epeeist smudge 17:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"The word dirk could have possibly derived from the Gaelic word "sgian dearg"(red knife)."

dearg is pronounced [ˈɮʲɛrəg] nothing like [dʌrk]. It may be a corruption of Low German dolk or dulk].

84.135.216.23 23:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go to the link at the bottom of the page. The guy who wrote it is a Scot, and probably knows how to pronounce the word. Rshu 13:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I put in the article what you said, 84.135.216.23. However, do you have a source to prove that? Rshu 13:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try this

84.135.255.138 00:09, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I will add that to the source list. Thank you. Rshu 02:12, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting..... I have no comment or expertise on the word's origin, i was merely commenting on it's later usage. I had assumed that it was gaelic in origin but of course lallans Scots is every bit as anglo-saxon as English. Epeeist smudge 20:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citations are not optional

I have today removed most of the article, as it was entirely lacking any references and appears to be a collection of original research, opinion and folk knowledge. None of those are acceptable sources for Wikiepdia articles. If you care enough about the any of the removed content to restore it, please provide credible references for it. Note carefully that your belief, no matter how passionate, does not constitute a credible source, and neither does Shuggy McSporran who you met in the beer tent at the Clan McHalfords Rally. Rogerborg (talk) 10:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Split

It turns out that there are two types of daggers known as "dirk", and they have no relation other than being members of the "dagger" family used during the Early Modern period. This is not very surprising, seeing that "dirk" was a generic term meaning "dagger" during that period, which just so happened to have undergone semantic narrowing to these two types. Consequently, a split would be appropriate, perhaps naval dirk and dirk (Highland dress), corresponding to ru:Кортик and ru:Дирк, respectively. --dab (𒁳) 10:36, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you cite any valid secondary references? As the wise man said above, "your belief, no matter how passionate, does not constitute a credible source, and neither does Shuggy McSporran who you met in the beer tent at the Clan McHalfords Rally". Dellant (talk) 04:58, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

picture of scottish dirk

Seriously? No one could find a picture of a Scottish dirk?

Japanese? Russian? Wow! Chaosdruid (talk) 01:50, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just killed off one sentence

"The perceived holiness of the steel is likely to have originated in folk superstitions about the magic in the forging of Germanic steel, hence the reverence of Highlanders towards Solingen steel.^{[citation needed]}"

Beliefs about the celestial origin of iron and the sanctity of smithcraft might account for this, too. The Irish held smiths in the same sort of religious esteem as they did judges or bards, and the Scots still use horseshoes to repel malign supernatural forces. The most famous Scottish blades were made by Andrew Ferrara, who used domestic metal as far as anyone can tell. It's been tagged for going on 2 years, which seems long enough. Poindexter Propellerhead (talk) 20:41, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]