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peace it yo. he was a baller. that just pretty much sums it up right thurr. loveitttt. dig it. His name seems Greek. Is it known if he was Greek or Roman? Am I correct in recalling that he wrote in Greek? john k 23:52, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I categorized him as a Roman because he was a person within the Roman Empire. If you object, there is another category, Roman era philosophers, which might be more appropriate, GreatWhiteNortherner 00:43, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, he might be a Roman, suggests the article. I would add that it is almost certainly wrong to classify people as Roman on the basis of living within the Roman Empire - such a classification would certainly not have been used at the time, and is not generally used by scholars today, who call Plutarch, for instance, a Greek. john k 01:19, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

e's a greek geek. dude. hello? just type in his name under a search engine and it tells ya. [NOX]

The first paragraph of the article indicates that his name might indicate Greek origin (Cilicia) or Roman citizenship (Laërtii family). He wrote in Greek, but the language would have been chosen for the convenience of the sponsor who commissioned the work, since Diogenes Laertius would necessarily be fluent in both Latin and Greek to read the authorities he cites. 70.170.47.2 09:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)Randy Hudson, 10 July 2006[reply]

He was a Greek with Roman citizenship or, if you prefer, a Greek-speaking Roman (basically the same thing, in this context). Irrespective of his Roman citizenship, though, he most certainly identified himself as Greek as the introduction of his book makes unabashedly clear. Abvgd (talk) 19:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When was Diogenes Laertius born? I think he lived too early to be considered a "Christian." "Christians" were not in existence until after 500 A.D. LCecere 20:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense. Porphyry wrote "Against the Christians." DL is likely 3rd century. Zeusnoos 22:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I needed to be insulted. It isn't nonsense to ask a question. LCecere 18:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers

Since there is nothing known about Diogenes at all, except for his authorship of Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers, it seems rational to merge the two articles. I sounded this out on the Classical Greece and Rome Wikiproject and there seemed to be broad agreement that in cases like this, where the author is a cypher, merging was probably sensible. Furius (talk) 03:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A key question, though, is the direction of the merge. I'd favour a merge to the Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers (that is, opposite to the direction of the templates) as it is the work and its transmission which is notable rather than the historian. It's usual to cover the event, not the person, implying that the 'event' (book) should take precedence. Klbrain (talk) 19:53, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In this case it is preferable to redirect to Diogenes Laërtius, because Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers is a modern title, not the original one. Most sources mention "Diogenes Laërtius" rather than Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers. T8612 (talk) 21:03, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I totally forgot about this! Yes, that's the sensible direction of travel. Furius (talk) 01:20, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]