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Do we really need stubby individual articles for every Beatles song, regardless of their notability (or indeed quality)? --kingboyk 02:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think that would make much sense. I'm going to propose that this article be deleted. --Cymsdale 02:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One After 909 is arguably worse. There's a debate going on at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines/Songs, by the way. --kingboyk 02:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have promised myself eventually to get around to writing good articles on every Beatles song within Wikipedia. I do promise that this article is removed from its stubby nature eventually, but I'm going to write them all out of stubdom eventually. Bobo . 19:54, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Hark" vs. "All"

I originally thought Lennon said, "All the angel's come," but after reading Lewisohn ("Complete Sessions pg. 199) which quotes it as "Hark the Angels Come," I thought I had misheard. Listening with headphones now, I think he says "All the Angels Come." Someone with younger ears needs to listen to it very carefully. I am not going to change it either way because I don't trust my ears. While Lewisohn had access to high-quality session tapes, he may not have listened carefully. I think his quote omits a whole word. His quote: "That was 'Can You Dig It' by Georgie Wood, now we'd like to 'Hark the Angels Come'." I think it actually is "... now we'd like to do 'Hark the Angels Come'." If he missed a whole word, it's possible he wasn't paying as close attention as usual.

In any case, let's discuss this here and come to consensus rather than changing it back and forth. One easy solution is to quote both. John Cardinal 17:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Hark" is clearly the recognized version, as a Google search will show.[1][2][3] As for what it sounds like: to my "young ears", it sounds most like "hour [of] the angels come"; there's definitely an R in it, but I can't hear the K. However, since it's widely recognized as "Hark" (and since that's what it was, according to an anonymous comment in [4]), that's what Wikipedia should record. WP:OR and all that. --Quuxplusone 08:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're not serious about SongFacts, are you? That's worthless as a source. One comment there says it was Paul who said it, another says Ringo, Ugh. Wikipedia should reflect reliable evidence, which discounts almost all of the Google results. Still, your evidence argument applies, and all the books I have that mention it (Sessions, by Lewisohn, p. 278 and Revolution in the Head by MacDonald, p. 270) have it as "Hark", so unless someone finds reliable evidence for "All", I agree the article should say "Hark". Interestly, MacDonald has it as "to do", discussed above. Oh, and I don't think it's that important. :) John Cardinal 13:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't call SongFacts a "reliable source", no, but the comment I was referring to did flatly claim that there exists a song called "Hark, the Angels Come", and that the Beatles performed it during that jam session. I have no idea whether that's true — I kind of doubt it — but it does link the "Hark" version to a verifiable or falsifiable historical event, which is at least better than a bunch of people arguing over what the word sounds like. :) --Quuxplusone 03:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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