Talk:Dietrich of Ringelheim

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Ringelheim?

Just as note: the article should avoid to use the designation "of Ringelheim". Both sources are aged, the first reference is actually a reprint of a 1930s (apparently self-published) family history. After checking with similar German articles and modern historian's works (mostly about Otto I), the surname "of Ringelheim" is never used. The only known connection (afaik): some of their relatives had possessions in Ringelheim, but that doesn't make Dietrich or his daughter "of Ringelheim". A better article name would be "Dietrich (count in Westphalia)" or something similar. GermanJoe (talk) 10:45, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaked phrasing a bit to work around the issue. GermanJoe (talk) 21:53, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

Wright Strati, Patricia; Garrigues, C. H. N. (1992). Our Garrigues ancestors: French Huguenots with connections to Charlemagne & European royalty. Gateway Press. p. 116.

genium ⟨✉⟩ 21:27, 8 December 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

A self-published, aged work is usually not a reliable source. In this case a better, academic source was available, so this source was no longer needed for the cited statement and replaced. If you would like to insert it, please discuss. GermanJoe (talk) 20:59, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A work published in 1992 is not so old for this subject. Unfortunately, it seems not available on the net anymore. I read some pages last summer and find an analysis worth to read. I can't remember more. The reference can stay here on the talk page for searchers or curious. It contains a relevant analysis if I remember correctly… genium ⟨✉⟩ 22:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]