Talk:Diane Coyle

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Politics

I am the subject of this page. It has been edited by people seeking to advance their specific political agenda, using me as a football. Neither of the authors cited referrring to my views about the Euro has ever contacted me to check what - in 2011 - my views actually are. The section on my political views was drafted on the basis of an inaccurate Daily Mail article, whose errors were pointed out to the newspaper. I believe this Wikipedia entry to be so biased as to be misleading. I have therefore deleted one section and made minor corrections to other sections. I would ask other editors to respect this; if anybody wishes to comment on my views on the Euro, I would ask them to have the integrity to contact me to find out what they are. Thank you. Diane1859 (talk) 13:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)Diane Coyle[reply]

If newspapers and other publications have misquoted or misreprented you, and someone has published corrections or clarifications, then we ought to present a few such corrections, properly WP:CITEd. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:15, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some balancing comments and supporting citation. The publications (tabloid newspapers) concerned have failed to correct the articles cited in this entry, despite being asked to do so. I would ask that the politically-motivated person or people repeatedly editing my entry in this misleading cease doing so. Not only do they not know what my views are, it is highly misleading to suggest that I have any editorial influence over BBC coverage. DC Diane1859 (talk) 15:27, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To refer to others editing the article as "politically-motivated person or people" is a breach of Wikipedia's principles of assume good faith. Wikipedia will aim for a neutral point of view, but need the balanced views to be sourced to independent reliable sources. You have been told more than once that you should not be making edits yourself to an article in which you have a conflict of interest. Please read and abide by WP:COI, and (if necessary) WP:FEFS. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:37, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note to mention that this is also under discussion at WP:BLPN - Diane, I've added a couple of questions for you there. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:42, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the "Political views" section

As noted at WP:BLP/N, I've removed the entire Political views section due to BLP concerns. The only 'political view' cited was a single twelve-year-old quotation, cherry-picked to look bad in the context of the current euro crisis (and a violation of WP:UNDUE). Given that the biography's subject is an economist who has published five whole books (I'm assuming that those published works listed are books; please correct me if I'm mistaken) since then, we ought to be able to come up with something a bit more comprehensive than that. The remainder of the section wasn't about her political views, but was a WP:COATRACK for presenting a right-wing think tank's pamphlet. Come on, Wikipedia—we can do better. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:54, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree the heading could be much better, though Oborne's book does clearly merit a mention as the material got coverage in reliable sources. I only expanded the material to add information about Patten to put the information into context and to add some balance though if people feel that part is unnecessary and makes it into a coatrack then I'm happy to have it shortened. Anyway it's certainly good to have the input of a wider selection of editors here.--Shakehandsman (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Salary in the infobox

A) is there a source for this, and B) is this good encyclopedic info? Seems like it's a bit too personal. If her salary was a matter of public debate, maybe. The Interior (Talk) 22:05, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The ref is already in the article elsewhere, though guess it should be in the infobox also so I've now repeated it there. It's on the first line of the article in large bold text so certainly appears to be subject to coverage.--Shakehandsman (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still not clear why this is relevant to the article. Because she had two jobs for a period? Just because the Daily Mail prints it, doesn't mean we should. The Interior (Talk) 02:43, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well , generally speaking, the high salaries paid to BBC staff are very notable and have attracted a vast amount of coverage and comment due to it being publicly funded rather than a private organisation.[1] Coyle's colleague at the BBC Trust Chris Patten describes the issue of salaries paid to executives at the corporation as "one of the most toxic reasons for the public's lack of sympathy for the BBC".[2] He highlights the figure of £150,000 and above and this fits in with that rate because she's working 2.5 days. The Trust are actually fairly open in relation to publishing the salaries of their members so I don't believe there are any privacy concerns and all the information is already available in the BBC Trust article (and not added to it by myself I might add).--Shakehandsman (talk) 04:13, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Concern from subject

Diane Coyle got in touch with me (I know her husband Rory a bit - met him when I was doing press for Wikipedia last decade!) asking how to fix inaccuracies in the entry. Fortunately, being a contact for BLP problems is something I do :-) Here's her concerns:

The main problem is that it’s out of date (because I’m no longer of interest) but people use it to prepare conference bios, do introductions etc.

Now Bennett Professor of Public Policy at the University of Cambridge (since March 2018) https://www.bennettinstitute.cam.ac.uk/about-us/team/diane-coyle/

I left the University of Manchester.

Received the CBE in 2018 New Year Honours - it has this at the bottom but the OBE is still prominent at the top.

I was a member of the Competition Commission from 2001 only up to 2009 (not 2014).

I am not a visiting fellow at the the University of Manchester's Institute for Political and Economic Governance - that was a long time ago.

I am not on the EDF Energy panel - that ended in 2016 - nor on the Migration Advisory Committee - that ended in 2014 - so should be past tense.

I'm just going to give it a once-over, please do review - David Gerard (talk) 15:12, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I removed the "Political aide controversy" section - because, on a quick Google, it's cited only to the Daily Mail, no other source - the quotes are only found in the Daily Mail and in mirrors of Wikipedia - and the Daily Mail is deprecated, especially for BLPs. Obviously, if it turns out an RS covered it that I couldn't find, that'd be different - David Gerard (talk) 15:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just updated article. Her Bennett Institute bio would count as a permissible WP:BLPSELFPUB, I'd think - any disagreement? - David Gerard (talk) 15:40, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]