Talk:Dhole/Archive 1

Archive 1

Hunting

The original sentence reads: Two or three dholes can kill a 50 kg (110 lb) deer in less than two minutes. Is this supposed to be "kill" or "eat?" This appears to be just an easy typo, as, in the context, "eat" makes more sense, but I wanted to verify before making a change.--Raulpascal 21:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it was supposed to be "bring down", or something similar. Dholes can eat 8.8lb of meat in an hour, but prefer to kill prey between 31kg and 175kg in weight. I'm sorry if I did something wrong. I didn't mean to. ~Pan-chan... =3 22:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Dead link(s)

The following link(s) are dead:

http://www.canids.org/SPPACCTS/dhole.htm (Dhole info)

Nerusai 21:23, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Clans

anyone wanna bring the whole clan thing in? dholes hunt in packs of 6-12 during the day but their society is a clan of up to 200 dholes. in any other dog society two packs meeting would be slaughter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thuglas (talk • contribs) 10:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

Time scale contradiction

Article says: "Within the canid family, the dhole is placed in a genus of its own, which is post-Pleistocene in origin. The dhole has been a distinct species for several million years." Pleistocene says: "The Pleistocene epoch ... is the period from 1,808,000 to 11,550 years BP [before present]." Given these dates for the Pleistocene, it can't be true that both the origin of the dhole is post-Pleistocene and that the dhole has been a distinct species for several million years. -- 201.50.254.243 21:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

taxonomic dispute?

The article states; "...the Dhole is more closely related to ... foxes of the genus Dusicyon"

There are no foxes in Dusicyon. There is only the Falkland Islands Wolf. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I have my answer... most species from Dusicyon have been moved to Lycalopex (via Pseudalopex...) - UtherSRG (talk) 21:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright issue?

The section about dhloe population and decline has sentences that are taken word for word from one of the external links. http://www.cuon.net/dholes/ Is this going to be a copyright issue?

Comatose51 20:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is! - I (Leon Durbin) personally wrote most of the text in this account (though it is not attributed to me). A vast majority of the text of this wikipedia entry is either directly lifted from the Dhole Home Page (http://www.cuon.net/dholes/) or from the account in the Canid Action Plan (both of which I was the primary author). I am in favour of the information being available on wikipedia but it should preferably not be quoted verbatim and if so should be in quotes with a correct citation! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dholehomepage (talk • contribs) 19:13, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Dhole Pronunciation

How is "dhole" pronounced? Is the H silent, making it sound like the banana and cranky senator, or is the DH a consonant cluster? --M.Neko 11:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Originally the article read in part:

Dholes are seen as vicious aggressors, which is a distortion of their true nature.

Kipling seems to use dholes in his children's story Red Dog as plot device to allow Mowgli to save his wolf pack and to produce a final battle so that Akela can die nobly.

Do hordes of dholes follow an alpha male on long-distance hunting treks? Probably not. They also do not speak an approximation of human language, nor are they motivated by revenge, or embarrassed by name calling and taunting. Nor is it likely that a giant snake would lay an elaborate and unlikely plan for a boy to decimate the attacking dhole pack. Reality check: this is an old kid's book.

They are depicted as cunning and capable pack hunters, not "vicious aggressors" IMHO.

So little is known about the "true nature" of dholes (from the sources I have consulted) that I decided to edit the sentence for NPOV. What do others think? Caltrop 15:59, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)

How is it pronoced?? If i say it like DE Hole my parents think i'm strange. Help?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.142.206.129 (talk) 01:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC) Do dholes actually urinate while standing only on their front paws? Why do they do this? There should be a source for this, or this fact should be deleted.

According to the linked page [1] the handstand bit is on video. Can't find the actual video though...I'd like to see that. :) R343L 12:23, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

We have it on hi8 video - I can tell you for a fact that dhole do sometimes urinate while handstanding on front paws - I have seen it several times during my study - Leon Durbin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.75.153 (talk) 21:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I have info on the 11 subspecies of dhole

I have info on the Dhole subspecies, but I don't know how to put it in the chart.

• Cuon alpinus dukhunensis is found south of the Ganges in India, it has a reddish coat, short hair on the paws,and black whiskers

• Cuon alpinus primaevus is found in Himalayan regions of Nepal, Sikkim and Bhutan. It has a longer redder coat than dukhunensis, long hair on the paws.

• Cuon alpinus laniger is found in Kashmir & Southern Tibbet. It has a full, yellowish- grey coat

• Cuon alpinus adjustus is found in Northern Myanmar & Indo-China. It has a reddish brown coat.

• Cuon alpinus lepturus is found in South of theYangze, China. It has a uniform red coat with thick under fur.

• Cuon alpinus fumosus is found in Western Szechuan, China & Mongolia. It has a luxuriant yellowish- red coat with a dark back and grey neck.

• Cuon alpinus hesperius is found in Eastern Russia & China. It has a long, bright yellow, tinted coat with a white underside & pale whiskers.

• Cuon alpinus alpinus is found in Eastern Russia, including Amur. It has a thick tawny red coat with a greyish neck & an ochre muzzle.

• Cuon alpinus infuscus is found in Southern Myanmar, Malaysia, Thailand & Vietnam. It has a dark brown coat and its cranial features are distinctive.

• Cuon alpinus sumatrensis is found in Sumatra. It has a short, bright red coat and dark whiskers.

• Cuon alpinus javanicus is found in Java. It has a short, bright red coat, although there are regional variations in colour.

• 
  rough map depicting distribution of eleven dhole (cuon alpinus) subspecies

http://www.cuon.net/dholes/

Gatorgirl7563 (talk) 00:05, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

These have been classed as mere synonyms by up to date taxonomy sources.Mariomassone (talk) 14:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)