Talk:Devoleena Bhattacharjee
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[edit]Add her photo Ankur Borthakur123 (talk) 16:34, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Year of birth
[edit]Her correct date of birth is 22 August 1990. Saswata 7773 (talk) 06:39, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Saswata 7773: Prove it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:14, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
I know her personally.
Saswata 7773 (talk) 11:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
U can also check devoleena Bhattacharjee's friend and co-actor rucha hasabnis Older Instagram posts. There is a picture of her with devoleena which she posted on 22 August 2017. You must read the caption of that picture/posts. Saswata 7773 (talk) 15:58, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Saswata 7773: I'm not checking anything. If you make a claim, you should bring proof, not require other people to do the searching. This source, which is typically considered reliable, says she turned 32 on 22 August 2017, which would put her birth year at 1985. Unfortunately, we can't go by your personal knowledge or beliefs, as that would constitute "original research", which cannot be independently verified. It's also not likely that her own statement would be useful, since actors often fudge their ages to get more work for longer periods. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- If this is something that irks Bhattacharjee, why doesn't she contact Indian Express and sort it out with them? If she proves to the reliable secondary source that her birthdate is incorrect, they can verify it, issue a correction, and the discrepancy will be resolved. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- DOB This is an article of The Times of India which says she turned 26 in 2016 which means she was born in 1990.
Princepratap1234 (talk) 17:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Year of birth Issue
[edit]Both references from Indian Express and RepublicWorld mention that her birth date is in 1985. This was unquestioned for years. Someone is very eagerly trying to change it now. As Cyphoidbomb mentioned, it is like the actress herself wants to fudge her age. If it happens again, I suggest changing the article to semi-protected for some time. The9Man talk 06:25, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
"Controversy"
[edit]The alleged "controversy" I removed in this edit is entirely meaningless gossip fodder. Someone was murdered, Bhattacharjee's phone number happened to be in someone's phone, the police asked her questions, and that was the end of that. What is the controversy? This happens to thousands of people every day. This has zero academic worth as it doesn't tell us anything about her accomplishments, character, etc. and it places undue emphasis on a negative event, a murder, that she had nothing to do with. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:31, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Date of birth
[edit]As per this source DOB she was 26 in 2016 which means she was born in 1990. Princepratap1234 (talk) 15:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- As per this source, she was 32 in 2017, which mean she was born in 1985. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Both are reliable sources, which can be said to be true.
Princepratap1234 (talk) 19:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yup. So what now? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Princepratap1234: Any thoughts about this, since you brought it up? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- You are an administrator so you should decide. Princepratap1234 (talk) 17:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Noooo, that's not how things work, and I'm actually trying to encourage you to come up with a solution that makes sense. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- My 2 cents, either find more sources that confirms one or the other, or if things can not be concluded remove date of birth of the BLP. --Titodutta (talk) 22:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- There is a solution that is typically used in these situations. If I can't inspire Princepratap1234 to think of it, then I'll just handle it myself. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Presented data in the form of a range here. See Mariah Carey and Disha Patani. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- You are an administrator so you should decide. Princepratap1234 (talk) 17:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Princepratap1234: Any thoughts about this, since you brought it up? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yup. So what now? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
User:Oshwah User:Fizconiz User:The9Man User:Ab207 Cyphoidbomb in these two sources it says she was 27 in 2017 there are more sources saying her age is of that so the means it should be 1990 than the other [1] [2] [3] it says here she was 28 in 2018. [4] here again says she is 26. There are more sources saying her birth year 1990 than 1985. Also the reliable source saying she was 32 might of just got it from google as they have put the wrong year and age. Please change it to 1990
- Hello. Due to the discrepancy for her birth year in the sources provided, there isn't any solid verification that she was born in 1990, at least not as of yet. Although 1990 may be correct like you said, that doesn't mean we should include 1990. I understand why you may seem to think she was born in 1990 because of the sources you've provided. However, this source you've presented, there is no clarification that she was born in 1990. If someone tells you they are 27 years old, it's impossible to guess their birth year, and this source does just that with no further context about her birth year. Hence, this source is declined for proof. Next, this source you've provided seems to be like a user-generated site to me, but idk, I could be wrong. But if this is the case, it does not meet the reliable sources guideline so it's an unreliable source which ultimately won't justify its inclusion. In the last source you've presented, all that it mentions is Happy Birthday with nothing mentioning her age or DOB. If I am missing anything, please let me know because I quickly viewed the sources you gave here and it is possible I might be wrong. Whether 1985 is correct or 1990, it's best that we leave out her DOB in the article for now, until more reliable sources can prove that she is in fact born in x year. Fizconiz (talk) 20:40, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Fizconiz I have counted the years from her age and it does mean she was born in 1990 from 2016 she was 26 look here
- 30 - 2020
- 29 - 2019
- 28 - 2018
- 27 - 2017
- 26 - 2016
- 25 - 2015
- 24 - 2014
- 23 - 2013
- 22 - 2012
- 21 - 2011
- 20 - 2010
- 19 - 2009
- 18 - 2008
- 17 - 2007
- 16 - 2006
- 15 - 2005
- 14 - 2004
- 13 - 2003
- 12 - 2002
- 11 - 2001
- 10 - 2000
- 9 - 1999
- 8 - 1998
- 7 - 1997
- 6 - 1996
- 5 - 1995
- 4 - 1994
- 3 - 1993
- 2 - 1992
- 1 - 1991
- 0 - 1990
Here I have counted the years and it specifically goes to 1990 and the sources doesn’t need to say the date of birth when the age says it all please read see it carefully above about the counted years this as well that the sources I gave were right. So I should be with 1990 year rather than the other. It is possible to guess their year birth because I have counted the years of age.
Also to clarify in this source [5] it does say her age here read the whole article first. It’s said it under her picture on top she turned 28 today. Hope you understand that is possible to guess their date of birth year with the age.
- That's fantastic! However, it was a waste of your time and mine. Of course, you can determine the birth year. But, you need to be aware that I am writing in terms of how the article was presented. In the first source, it says she turned 27 years old with no further context of when the article was published; that's what I meant that it would be impossible to guess her birth year because we simply don't know when the article was written. 2015? 2016? 1954? In this source, thanks for telling me where the age was written. I strongly recommend you to read this discussion about inclusion for an updated article that mentions someone's DOB. Again, if I am missing anything, please let me know. Fizconiz (talk) 18:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok so can you please change the date of birth year to 1990. Or do i need to add more sources to make proof. If not please add it. Fizconiz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.8.13 (talk) 20:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC) The admin did say we can use the sources.
- I won't be able to change it to 1990 without any reliable sources confirming her DOB. That fundamentally violates WP:BLP. If you want her DOB to be added, please find a reliable source that clearly states her DOB, but if you or others can't find any, it's best that it's left out for now. Note that you can add her DOB yourself once the protection for the article has been lifted. But please be careful as unreferenced/poorly referenced additions to any BLP will definitely be reverted. Fizconiz (talk) 21:25, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Fizconiz Yes but the age says it all and I have told you that the ages given in the sources specifically tells that she was born in 1990 I don’t think you understand. User:Fylindfotberserk can you also make him understand I have counted the ages and the if the sources say she was 26 in 2016 and then she was born in 1990 it does meet WP: BLP and it was approved in the discussion here this discussion User:Oshwah can you explain too because look at how I have counted it above. So it should be 1990 so please add it as the reliable sources says it’s all that if the age is their that means for example she was 26 in an article given by Prince it does mean she was born in 1990 as for the other year there is only one source which I have checked and is no other news have said this. So please do it. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t say the date of birth as the age matters as it does mean her year birth is 1990.
- I am withdrawing myself from this discussion. We obviously don't need 700 people here. I'm sure that one of them can help you. Fizconiz (talk) 21:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Fizconiz Why can’t you help me I have told you that you can use a source with her age saying 26, 27 or 28 as it does mean she was born in 1990 even in the discussion it said by the admin you can use it so please add the birth year. You are not willing to understand this.
Fizconiz Please help as I have given the right sources as the age does specifically say her birth year was 1990 so please add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.8.13 (talk) 23:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Let’s take this step by step. To make things easier for both of us, can you provide one source at a time and give your reason why 1990 is correct? Example: "Source A: Explain why 1990 is correct Fizconiz (talk) 23:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Fizconiz I gave the ages specifically tell that she was born in 1990 from the sources why are you not listening even the admin has approved it in the discussion you told me to read. And found another source with her correct of birth with a reliable source [6] Read the article carefully. So it’s five sources which I have given. [7] here is another one with her birth year and the age together.
- You need to understand that admins don't decide the Wikipedia. You also need to understand that rushing to a consensus is not how it's done. You can't say "I am not listening" or that "you are right". Calm down and relax. Things don't happen right that second as you wish. You need patience. I am not even involved in contributing to this article, but you pinged me and left a message so I thought to discuss. And, the discussion I have directed you to, nothing was approved, and neither do they support your claims you're making here. "Updated" articles as in this source have updated dates, not publication dates. Please take some time to realize. As for the rest, good that you left those three sources behind to prove she was born in 1990 as you now realized they weren’t the best.This source seems to be an okay source for her DOB. You are more than welcome to add her DOB yourself when protection for the article has been lifted. Fizconiz (talk) 07:58, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Fizconiz Can you do this please as you said to find one with date of birth on and I did so can we end this topic and say we have found her right date of birth year please do this it’s a request and sorry for saying all that. And I did a big mistake tagging you as you won’t understand this. So for now on I won’t tag you because you always do this.
[8], this source is saying that she was born in 1985. As there are so many sources telling different birth year. It's better to put only day and month not year. 2409:4063:2386:662D:F1F4:B34A:7786:17A1 (talk) 12:03, 22 May 2021 (UTC) That’s not a reliable source so we can’t use that. 1990 is her real birth year as their are more reliable sources saying that.
It's a reliable source. It's not confirmed that she was born in 1990. 2409:4063:2386:662D:F1F4:B34A:7786:17A1 (talk) 12:10, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force##Guidelines_on_sources As per this it does not come in the reliable sources so it is 1990 her correct birth year.
Amar Ujala, read this it's a reliable source. Please understand there is no confirmed sources telling that she was born in 1990. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4063:2386:662D:F1F4:B34A:7786:17A1 (talk) 12:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
I am not making my own rule this is that and it’s the rules let me ask an admin if we can use this. Anyways there are only two sources saying her age year is 1985. I have given loads of her being 1990. I have given 6-7 sources which are reliable. So yes her year is 1990 also in this video when she was in Dance India Dance she said she was doing her exams when she auditioned for it in 2009 or 2010. You can do your exams when you are 25 she was 19 in 2009. Look here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qpwwshmisE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.8.13 (talk) 12:56, 22 May 2021 (UTC) Her date of birth year is 1985 because here it said she was 11 when her dad passed away in 1997. So it should be with that year I think I kept believing the other sources. https://www.republicworld.com/amp/entertainment-news/television-news/devoleena-bhattacharjee-and-her-family-heres-what-you-need-go-know.html So please add the correct year 1985 sorry for that confusion. Also another proof I know this is not a reliable source but she has specifically said her father passed away in 1997 [9] and in Bigg Boss 14 she had said she was 11 or 12 when he passed away here she explained she was 11 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw9PnMJbHzE and here [10]
You himself is telling that she was born in 1985. As her father died in 1997 and she was 12 at that time. It means she was born in 1985.
Yes and correction she said she was 11 look in the YouTube video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.8.13 (talk) 14:05, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Now because of you , her age which was already there on her page is removed. Now you are saying that was correct. Are you serious, please don't edit Wikipedia if you can't. 2409:4063:2386:662D:4E19:6F3A:AAD8:C543 (talk) 14:10, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry it was not my fault because I thought her birth year was 1990 as I believed the reliable sources out there. So don’t talk to me like that and I am sorry. You add it back in a new account if you want. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.8.13 (talk) 14:12, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
It was completely your fault, please stop editing Wikipedia and Don't disturb other editor. 2409:4063:2386:662D:4E19:6F3A:AAD8:C543 (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC) Relax I did not know first and you can’t talk to me like this. I believed the sources which were said that her birth was 1990 but yes I would say that it is my fault that I should of searched for two birth years and that of 1985. Please don’t get too angry over this. I will fix this and you can’t tell me to leave Wikipedia because this is not how it works. I am very sorry from my bottom of my heart please let’s end this and I will fix this trust me I am talking to another admin to fix this up and add her 1985 year ok. Please dont get upset.
Please don't repeat this again. 2409:4063:2386:662D:3FCB:3D76:7265:443E (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Please create an account probably with ur name and do 10 edits and then add her date of birth correct 1985 can you do that please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.8.13 (talk) 14:56, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Then you create a account and then add it. People like you are making Wikipedia worse. 2409:4063:2386:662D:FF16:6B06:43FB:173A (talk) 15:04, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
WhAt did I say that was wrong all I said was create an account to add it I did not say anything wrong nor I am making Wikipedia worse I am not that kind of person to do so so please could you do it. And don’t get upset again and just do that.
I will report you if you again vandalise pages or remove content. I have to check your all edit histories now. 2409:4063:2386:662D:FF16:6B06:43FB:173A (talk) 15:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC) You are again misunderstood me I have not vandalised any page if I have added something it has always been with a reliable source. And plus I have rv edits which have been adding untrue content for instance here [11] so please relax and understand me on this part.
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Change Bengali Hindu to Assamese. Tehsildersingh (talk) 15:33, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Tehsildersingh: Times of India says she is from Bengali family. RealAspects (talk) 15:42, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Then atleast say Assamese-Bengali because mother is assamese. Tehsildersingh (talk) 16:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:14, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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