Talk:Deschutes River/Archive 1

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should be renamed to Chutes_River, Chutes_(river), Des_chutes_(river) "DESCHUTES"=english; =official spelling? Akidd dublin (talk)

• Oh, for chrissake. The name of the river is the Deschutes River. Look it up on a map. You don't know what you're talking about, AGAIN. Fnarf999 00:50, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

regarding WP user fnarf999 must refrain from including remarks like the above one, or, IMHO, completely refrain from comments like the above one. If it continues (to my edits), i am going to notice the comment behaviour of user fnarf999 to the appreciate places, again. This tone is unwiki.

In addition, traditionally the name is DES CHUTES (french), neological spelled DESCHUTES. This is also the official spelling. I was already researching it. Hence further answers to my question are superflous. User:Yy-bo 14:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Name spelling

Why is it spelled DESCHUTES (and not CHUTES or DES CHUTES)? What about other french names including DES? Any of them renamed, recently or when ever? Questions i would like to get answered. User:Yy-bo 18:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Chutes doesn't stand on its own in the same way The Dalles would sound funny without the The. (I assume you know Des is the french form of The declined to agree in number and gender with chutes.) As for it not being Des Chutes, perhaps German influence of assembling words to form a new word, like handschuh being hand plus shoe meaning mitten or glove. Or maybe, like many historic names, they were relayed orally for years until anyone bothered to write them and the scribes didn't know French. —EncMstr 18:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, i know des (french) resembles the (english). I was wondering if people actually say the Chutes river, if they use the des Chutes river, or if it has changed to the Deschutes river.

Same thing as LCD monitor/LCD screen, should be LC monitor, but it occurs...

Also wondering if it is taken wrong, if i use the Chutes river, same thing as spelling the french des, but once being in the states, using the english form. Or it must be spelled french? Better, to use the new form Deschutes.

Guess for AI software that's already non-trivial (how to make a descision). It requires a couple of conclusions... User:Yy-bo 11:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The name is Deschutes, if you called it the chutes no one would have any idea what you were talking about.71.236.169.89 02:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The non-standard French spelling is probably due to the fact that it was named by French-Canadian Coureur des bois about 2 centuries ago, when there was much creativity in spelling even for people who didn't live in the middle of the wilderness. Other similar placenames of French origin but not "good French" include Pend Oreille River, Palouse, Grand Tetons, Loup River, Coeur d'Alene River, not to mention general terms like prairie and coulee. Over time placenames get mangled, especially when moving between languages. Pfly 06:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Added USGS variant names, including "Chutes River", though note the citations on the link; Chutes River was used on Parker, Samuel. Map of Oregon Territory. Utica, New York: 1838. A bit old now. Pfly 09:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The name of the river is the Deschutes! Who cares about what it means, it's named the Deschutes river and no one can change it!-eeb

I concur. Quit whining. Yes, the name came from French. Technically it should be "Des Chutes." But it's not. The river is the Deschutes. That is its name. Period.

Sherars Falls

So what about an expanded discussion about Sherars Falls. It is a very interesting place. Cool fishing platforms, dangerous falls, an old hotel that burned up. Lots of pioneer and Indian history. Should it have its own page - there are some blank links, or should it just be part of this one? --Smartone100 01:08, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Probably best to start with a section in Deschutes River. If that becomes unwieldy, then split it off into a new article. Here are a few interesting websites to get started:

• topozone map of Sherars Bridge and Falls
• Fish migration schedule over the falls
• Info rafting below the falls to Columbia River
• Someone's personal observations of the area
• Partial list of waterfalls in Deschutes watershed
• 1965 photo of falls

—EncMstr 01:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Etymology re the WA Deschutes R

Please see Talk:Deschutes River (Washington) for more; French origin for the Oregon name seems most likely; wondering if Costello's wrong and it's not Twana or whichever Puget Sound Salish he ascribes it to that's the source for the WAshington River name, or if the Twana/whomever adopted it from the French somehow....Skookum1 (talk) 16:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

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