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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 13:53, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

:thank you Tony - I'm away from internet for next couple of days Ian Furst (talk) 17:11, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Back at it Tony, will begin changes. Ian Furst (talk) 16:31, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Tony - I think everything has now been addressed? Ian Furst (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Tony - I believe I've addressed the latest set of changes. Ian Furst (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Tony - I've finished the latest set of changes. Ian Furst (talk) 11:57, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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Indications
An indication is "a valid reason to use a certain test, medication, procedure, or surgery" and one of the recommended section headings for a procedure or surgery according to MEDMOS. Maybe change to "Reasons for Use"? or something like that. I can also bring it up at Wikiproject Medicine - maybe it's something we should consider changing globally to a more user friendly heading. Ian Furst (talk) 16:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneI discussed it at Wikiproject Medicine and we've changed the MEDMOS to read "Medical uses" instead of "Indications". Ian Furst (talk) 22:31, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This was intended to be an opening sentence to draw the reader into the paragraphs 3, 4 and 5 which explain artifical teeth, anchor points and facial prosthetics (each paragraph has the links). Remove the opening sentence? Ian Furst (talk) 16:57, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Described in the techniques section below. Was trying to avoid turning the article into a manual by keeping the description of the technique to a minimum. You'll see it in the pictures , although I only put up one drill shot rather than each increasing size. There are many variations on the technique depending on the situation and manufacturer. Ian Furst (talk) 18:02, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Biomechanical considerations
No joke. They put an implant into a jig, at 20oC, in air then a machine taps it 5,000,000 times at a frequency of 3-15Hz at a given force (let's call it F(a)). If it doesn't break, the force is increased and the test repeated with a new implant. This cycle continues until the implant breaks prior to the 5 x 10^6 hits. There's a standard for the force that an implant should be able to resist. I think it's called endurance testing although I'm not a biomaterials guy so this may not be exactly correct. There's a second test that's completed in saline with 2x10^6 hits. Ian Furst (talk) 13:50, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Core surgical procedures
  • I am now seeing the content that I was looking for above. I must be misunderstanding the structure of the article due to section titles. "Indications" is still confusing to me.
I've posted a request to wp medicine asking if others use a different term. I can think of many but would prefer to keep uniformity with others. Ian Furst (talk) 17:59, 14 March 2014 (UTC)  Done see above, changed to "Medical uses" as per discussion at Wikiproject Medicine and subsequent changes to MEDMOS. Ian Furst (talk) 22:31, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
One-stage, two-stage surgery
Hard tissue (bone) reconstruction
Soft tissue (gingiva) reconstruction
  • I think a word is missing in "There are various methods to accomplish this by either taking a roll of tissue adjacent an implant (palatal roll)".  Done reworded the paragraph to make it easier to understand Ian Furst (talk) 12:26, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Additionally, for an implant to look esthetic, a band of full, plump gingiva is needed to fill in the space on either side of implant." is a stubby paragraph that needs to be expanded or merged. It could also use a citation.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:56, 13 March 2014 (UTC)  Done the sentence went with the next paragraph, moved. Ian Furst (talk) 12:26, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Prosthetic procedures for removable dentures
During surgery
  • Having had two implants, I find the phrase "Because the surgeon is blind to the location of the tip of the drill when it is in the bone, nearby anatomic structures can also be injured" to be very troubling. The surgeon is not throwing darts or something.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)  Done Ha! - I forget, sometimes, how it sounds when you're on the other end of the drill. Reworded and added a reference. Ian Furst (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Long term
Images

 Done I've tried to create a narrative thru the article for someone that only reads the captions. Ian Furst (talk) 01:35, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The use of "cite PMID" is strongly discouraged by most of us at WP:MED. There are even up for deletion right now. Would recommend that you switch it to "cite journal"

: Partly done; started this article before seeing the discussion of problems with cite PMID, replacing cite PMID and cite ISBN but it'll take some time due to number of uses. Ian Furst (talk) 00:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)  Done all "cite pmid" and "cite isbn" removed. Time for a beer. Ian Furst (talk) 03:38, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:27, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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