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Acceptance of Kurds by Turkey?

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Where? When does Turkey mention the Kurdish denial? Mistake interpreted as denial is WP:OR.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're referring to this edit? VR talk 18:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, confirm. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:13, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the confirmation. The source says "He also made reference to the existence of a “Kurdish problem”, something which had long been denied by Ankara, along with admitting “past mistakes”."
There's also this scholarly source, which says about Erdogan's 2005 speech: "With Erdoğan's speech, the huge gap between Turkey's former policies of denial toward non-Turks and the current policy of recognizing different "subidentities" became evident."[1]
There are a couple of scholar sources that that refer to Erdogan's inauguration of a Kurdish channel is a break from Turkey's history of denying Kurds
  • "One of the more significant steps taken by the AKP in 2009...launched the first state run, 24 hour TV channel entirely in Kurdish...has played an important role in making Kurds and their language more visible, primarily to Turkish mainstream society, providing a limited legitimacy after decades of denial, denigration..."[2]. (You can read the whole thing on google books its too much to type out).
  • "In 2009, [Erdogan] inaugurated 24 hour Kurdish language broadcasts...Given Turkey's denial of Kurdish language and identity for so many years, the prime minister's remarks had a huge impact on the psychology of Turks."[3]
So I think some mention of Erdogan's policies is merited here.VR talk 05:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That the Mistakes or Kurdish problem are interpreted as denial is OR. He also said If HDP wants a Kurdistan, go to northern Iraq and there is no such thing as Kurdistan in Turkey. If Erdogans policies are merited, then in due balance. To mention that Scholars see it as a progress that a channel opened might be discussed. But then the Speech of 2019 might also have place and the expulsion of Baydemir from parliament in 2017 for saying Kurdistan as well. Maybe AKPs policies were ambiguous, once supportive, then denying? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 09:11, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Ofra Bengio, ed. (2014). Kurdish Awakening: Nation Building in a Fragmented Homeland. University of Texas Press. p. 153.
  2. ^ Cengiz Gunes, Welat Zeydanlioglu, ed. (2013). The Kurdish Question in Turkey. Taylor & Francis. p. 163.
  3. ^ David L. Phillips. The Kurdish Spring: A New Map of the Middle East. Taylor & Francis. p. 140.
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