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October wikilink drive

part of October wikilink drive added links--Andys'edtits (talk) 08:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Should perhaps this article be deleted and the info be merged into Military_deception?

Star Lord - 星王 (talk) 22:10, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is the further development and application of maskirovka to intelligence operations. ^walk victor falk^talk 07:22, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see why these two paragraphs (based on a single source) need their own article though. If the nebulous text is of some value, it should be merge to maskirovka as an extension of that. I should add that the same editor has dumped a lot of dubious quality material (in the same vein) in the article on Operation Anadyr; that page is still crap compared to what is available about the topic in various books, but most of the material added there (by the same editor who created this one) are bland banalities. 86.127.138.234 (talk) 02:46, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, after a little search for more sources on this... what I found is [1], where the prime example of D&D is the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor (see p. 124). So it seems the same thing as maskirovka but with a Western terminology instead. 86.127.138.234 (talk) 03:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This topic should be maintained separately. I agree that D&D has a sense of going beyond maskirovka, and given time, I suspect this topic will fill out nicely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.66.65 (talk) 06:24, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're actually right but not because they are different topics but because they are different schools of thought about the same topic. I found a nice article (by Hutchinson) drawing these distinctions and I've used it to clarify quite a few things in the maskirovka article. 86.127.138.234 (talk) 06:43, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added to WikiProject Military History

Given the overlap with military matters, I've added it to WikiProject Military History, and included it in the "Cold War" taskforce since a lot of it originates with Western understanding of maskirovka, but only included it in the US taskforce (and not the Russian) since it is more based on maskirova than including it (as noted by other editors above). Likewise, I've only part filled out the B-class checklist (for the more obvious issues) as more thorough work on the article will likely address the remaining factors as well. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 13:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Umm.. The US NSA has a Denial and Deception unit

I came across this page when trying to wikify a link to the US NSA's Denial and Deception unit as discussed in FIRSTFRUITS progam. It looks like it is more then theory...

Jeffrey Walton (talk) 09:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]