Talk:Demon Hunter (band)/Archive 1
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Edit Page
Um, why is the article linking to the edit page for Summer of Darkness? It's already made.—Boarder8925 04:09, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Nevermind. It's stopped being screwed up.—Boarder8925 04:10, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
AOL Music - Artists to Avoid?
Where did AOL say to avoid them? Please provide a reliable source. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 21:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hell Hath No Fury At All
This isnt sourced and the new album isn't named on either their myspace or album 222.155.179.132 06:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
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Merit
This band is only 4 years old and has never been heard outside of America. Why does it warrent a mention in an encyclopedia. There is also no mention of numbers of records sold just the phrase 'huge success' and 'twice as many as the last one'. What 200 copies instead of 100?
- This band rocks what are you talking about they sold alot more then 200 copies 500,000more like it even 1mil well not that many but still —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.201.2.65 (talk) 21:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Where is the substantiation and merit of this entry?
- To answer your question, anonymous person, Demon Hunter's last album (The Triptych) charted on the Billboard 200 chart at #136 and peaked at #1 on Billboard's Heatseekers chart (Don't believe me? Click here[1]). That should satisfy your want for "substantiation and merit." By the way, I love the pain-staking care you took to back up your claim that Demon Hunter "has never been heard outside of America." I mean, all the supporting facts that you listed... my goodness, was that entertaining reading! Roofi's Publicist 01:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Distance issue in "History"
At the bottom of the "History" section, it says they filmed a video "at Whidbey Island, which is about an hour north of Seattle." Now come on, putting "about an hour north" in an encyclopedia is just asinine. I'm deleting the second part of that sentence (after the comma). If someone wants to, they can go find out how far it is in a valid unit of distance, but personally I don't think that's very relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.71.212 (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
The Blessed Resistance
The fact that Demon Hunter have such a devoted following that they have a fan-club thing that you actually have to pay to get into, does this warrent their own page or maybe a mention on the bands page?GreenRunner0 03:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Citations
I have no clue how to ADD them... so here is a citation for DH being AOL's top 10 to watch...
http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=34005
Here is a source for how they placed on Billboard (which I do not think is in the article)
http://www.pluginmusic.com/news/archive.php?id=2404
Here is a citation for their influences. An actual interview of Ryan Clark. I would put something to the effect of "Ryan Clark's influences are the following:" now Demon Hunter's because that is Ryan talking about his own influences, but he doesn't write ALL of the music himself. It's mostly him and Don.
http://www.beowolfproductions.com/DemonHunterInterview.html
I'll be adding more citations to the others as soon as I find them.
I was unable to find a citation for their rave reviews.Lorenwade (talk) 05:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the links.But,last link is broken. :/ BreakerLOLZ (talk) 05:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
This Is Not Metalcore?
For that today any banda who possesses a sound modern metalcore label or Hardcore, when many of these bands are clearly Nu Metal or Groove Metal.
Demon Hunter is Nu Metal is not metalcore, can be seen clearly in his early works as Infected songs, Not Ready To Die that clearly could be seen as Rap Metal or rapcore, Riff The Guitars of both the technique and intonation are very similar to bands like Korn, Deftones even clear that much more aggresivo, there is be clear that many bands have influences from Nu Metal Have Hardcore by not holding Breakdowns riff or some similar to those of metalcore or Melodic Death Metal will have to be that style, 90th that more than having a cover Prong - Snap Your Finger, Snap Your Necks , please boys a little more than hearing the music not stop listening guided by fashions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.45.228.228 (talk) 03:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
OMG I've always thought they sounded like Rap metal or Nu metal but I never thought anyone would belive me.I totaly agree they are Nu metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.162.94 (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Again, no editing the genres without a cited reliable source. Wiki Policy. 67.174.162.92 (talk) 04:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I've always thought that a couple of their songs sounded kinda like Nu Metal, but for the most part i'd just call them metalcore. Besides, Nu metal's not sourced. Emo777 (talk) 07:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Live CD/DVD
I read this somewhere, but I totally forgot now, but they're supposed to come out with a live cd and dvd from their stronger than hell tour... anyone else hear of this? -- Shatterzer0 (talk) 22:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't hear it anywhere, that would be cool though. Emo777 (talk) 18:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Demon Hunter hiding their identities?
I have never heard of DH hiding their identities before I read the article. I would like to know why they wanted to do that sort of thing. --Adam Puckett (E-Mail me) *My Contributions *Talk 15:39, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- I think it was mostly a publicity stunt thing. Jpers36 18:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the above is only semi-true. It was mostly to keep the focus on the music, not on the members.
-- the info on the forum is completely irrelevant. I'm going to delete if if no one speaks up.
Please stop deleting the forum info. -- AugustWinterman 0:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Why isn't there anything on the page about them being a Christian band?
The band members originally concealed their identities because they were all relatively well-known within the small world of Christian heavy/alternative music. (The Clarke brother's had been in Training for Utopia, one of them had been in Focal Point before that, Jesse Sprinkle was in Poor Old Lu and has had a hand in a lot of Christian rock music, Kris had played with Embodyment...). They did not want to be known as 'so and so's new band,' and have fans approaching the music with all the prejudices and expectations that knowledge would involve. And yes, this mystery did generate considerable interest and excitement -- whether that was intentional or not, I don't know.
Unfortuntely, my sources for all this are just my memories of being a Tooth & Nail Scenester in the late '90s. People looking for sources to back this out could check out issues of HM magazine around the time Demon Hunter came out.
Two other incidental notes:
1)I think the history section is very incomplete without at least mentioning the Clarke brother's previous bands.
2) Taking these past bands into account helps explain the band's -- apparently somewhat controversial -- classification as hardcore. I have to admit, I hear very little 'core' in Demon Hunter (and a lot of current 'metalcore' bands) myself, but there's little doubt Training for Utopia was a metalcore band, and Focal Point was hardcore. Because of the previous associations of the Clarke's brother's bands, the fact there is some continuity between all their music, and the scene they continued to be associate with, Demon Hunter has tended to get classified as metalcore. And let's face it, genre classification isn't just about the sound of the music itself, it's also the lineages that are constructed, and dare I even say 'institutional associations' (what bands/labels/scenes they associate and are associated with) that contribute to a band's genre classification. Cheers, Genesiswinter (talk) 02:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
image for commons
If somebody need free images of Demon Hunter for commons (flickr http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Demon+Hunter&l=commderiv&ct=0). --85.140.47.105 (talk) 04:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Reasons why they are hard rock
They are becuase almost half the songs on their latest album hardly have screaming in them.Here's the list.
1.Fading away
2.Carry me down
3.Incision
4.Thorns.
Four out of twelve is a good enough reason to say they are hard rock.
They're not hard rock. 4 out of 12 (or 14 if you have the special edition) is not a reason to call them hard rock. One that still leaves 8 out of 12 that are metalcore (10 out of 14 on the speical edition). And 2, you have to consider they're last albums which had alot more screaming and growled vocals in it. They're Metalcore if anything.Emo777 (talk) 09:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
In addition, it would be better if you supported your argument with cited sources. 71.226.67.227 (talk) 20:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
So all metal bands who don't scream are hard rock? Just becuase there is no screaming, does not mean the songs are Hard Rock.Simmo mania11 april 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simmo mania (talk • contribs) 18:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I know this is an old conversation but...honestly? How does this sound like hard rock? And anyway, you don't see people calling All That Remains hard rock because of "Two Weeks", or that Metallica, Megadeth, and other thrash metal bands are hard rock just cause they don't scream. yes (talk) 01:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
This date format SUCKS!!!
Why the hell does it have to say "Since 2000"? It looks so fucking retarded. It would look much more clean and proffesional if it said "2000 - present." Homie C (talk) 23:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- See MOS:DATE#Other date ranges yes (talk) 00:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- Which states: "In the main text of articles, the form 1996–present should not be used, though it is preferred in infoboxes and other crowded templates or lists". The date range in question is in the infobox, so shouldn't it be "2000–present"? --WillMak050389 00:33, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sweet, thanks for some reason i've been trying to get that whole section and haven't been able to...what you said makes sense to me. yes (talk) 04:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Melodic Death Metal
Ha! Almost all the genres are wrong. Here are the correct genres.
Alternative Metal Metalcore
- You're kidding, right? Nickoladze 00:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to say they have many Nu-metal songs (most notably on the first two albums but still present on the third) 'cause the hardcore influence is so minor it hardly makes them a part of a established metalcore scene and is drowned out by the metal sound they mostly display. Also many Nu-metal bands have hardcore influences, with quick drumming, aggressive vocals and breakdowns but it doesn't make them metalcore. I just think that as soon as someone says they listened to a hardcore band when they were 14 all the critics and fans start throwing around the metalcore tag, both in a positiv and negativ way.
Only put down genres if they have a valid source to go with it. BreakerLOLZ 19:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
i think nu-metal and metalcore are correct genres. they only have a few songs on each album thatre sorta alternative metalish but you cant classify a band by the ballads on the album. alternative metal is too light of a classification of them in my opinon —Preceding unsigned comment added by CrunchPuff (talk • contribs) 02:16, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Picture
Does anyone happen to have a more current line-up photo? the current one is from 6 years ago and the band has a few new members. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spencerz (talk • contribs) 17:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately since the band doesn't go on many tours, a newer picture isn't available. If anybody happens to go to a DH concert, please take a picture of the band! We can not use fair use images. TheWeakWilled (T * G) 20:33, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Demon hunter and Metallica: The Military connection
I tried editing the Demon Hunter page to indicate Metallica's refutation of the story that they requested the US Military stop using their music during interrogations. You marked my edit as "reliable source?" which seems odd given it is their web site that the the refutation was posted on (it was also posted on Facebook, but I didn't include that reference). Given that the original comment about Metallica comes from three repeats of the one quote, it seems a bit odd that Metallica themselves denying it is regarded as unreliable. While I'm happy to leave the original quote in, it seems only fair that the denial is also mentioned. Simon j parker (talk) 01:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- The denial should be mentioned, provided that a WP:RS can be used. When I looked at http://www.metallica.com/news/20130218-600491.asp, it didn't appear to be the band's site with the "Quebec magnetic" logo present. But looking at the URL, I was mistaken. I'll add the removed material back, but format it correctly too. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
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Singles
I've been going through the album pages for Demon Hunter and adding sections for "Singles". However, I am only aware of 2 or 3 singles per album, though I'm sure that each album has at least 4. If anyone has any contributions so far as that goes, please don't hesitate to chip in! Perhaps the main article could have its own section that lists singles? Johnny Panic
- Comment - Signature to allow automatic archiving. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:49, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
War (Demon Hunter album)
Support split - Album is well sourced, and should be split to a new article entitled War (Demon Hunter album). Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- Based on the work you did on the Peace entry, if there's as much sourced for War, go ahead. Now that they're released, they should each have their own article, unless most of the background is identical. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- I hadn't seen that it was added to this article. Moving it made sense. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:16, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Ethan luck
ehtan luck does backing vocals for demon hunter they video of him doing that 31.94.20.60 (talk) 02:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)