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Ethnic groups data (including for the Koreans) can be found at: http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/898586b1dc7b4043c1256a450044f331/c20ac9ee3d0ae236c1256918004dcac1/$FILE/G0041947.doc . olivier 04:15, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Why are Koreans listed separately from other groups?2toise 04:20, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Religions

So, Uzbekistan is an ex-SSR, yet people with religious affiliations make up more than 95% of the country? Does the "88%" Sunni figure come from an assumption that all the country's Turkic people are Muslims? Also, can anyone tell me when the Korean population arrived?Picaroon9288 00:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, there are many non-adherents people in Uzbekistan, but officially they're considered as moslems (if you're Uzbek, you're considered as moslem - that's the problem). And Korean population came in period of WW2.--Abdullais4u 10:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Tajik population

There is a large difference between a 5% Tajik population and a 30% one. Can this issue be expanded upon? john k 19:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

There are Uyghurs living in Uzbekistan. They should be listed in the census. Sonic99 00:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Tajik population discrepancies

I am taking out the reference to D. Carlson (note [3] in older versions), which appears to be unverifiable in independent sources, and replacing it with a reference to a paper by a recognized Central Asian scholar and expert, Svante Cornell. My reasons are explained below.

The statement on discrepancies in Tajik population statistics (lines 3-4) in previous versions relied on D. Carlson, "Uzbekistan: Ethnic Composition and Discriminations", Harvard University, August 2003. Unfortunately, the only place on the web where this source can be found is http://tajikam.com/forum/index.php?topic=445.msg1696, which is not necessarily neutral. Furthermore, "D. [for David] Carlson, Harvard University" does not exist anywhere on the web outside this URL (and Wikipedia-dependent sites). I have written to User:The Wild West guy, who originally inserted the reference to D. Carlson on February 28, 2008, and to "Persistani", who put the D. Carlson piece on tajikam.com in September 2007, asking to provide authoritative references for the article and its author, but so far they have not responded to my query. I have also written to Harvard University libraries, and here are excerpts from the two replies that I have received:

  • "I have not been able to find any official trace of this "article;" nor do I find a David Carlson affiliated with Harvard." Deborah Kelley-Milburn, Research Librarian, Widener Library, Harvard University (July 9, 2008).
  • "I have been unable to find any reliable sources that would verify this citation or its purported author through standard Web searches or queries of various databases. It seems possible that the article in question was cobbled together from various sources and presented under this byline, perhaps in an attempt to give credence and scholarly veneer to the points of view expressed, as well as the high estimate of the number and percentage of Tajiks living in Uzbekistan (the reason it is cited in the Wikipedia entry)." Hugh K. Truslow, Librarian for the Davis Center Collection, Harvard University (July 9, 2008).

If anyone has reason to believe that "D. Carlson, Harvard University" is a real researcher or that the originally cited source is an authentic verifiable paper, please let me know and it will be restored. --Zlerman (talk) 02:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Just bad overall

This has got to be one of the worst demographic articles I have ever read. Hardly any numbers are presented after 1989. Come on, even other wiki articles about the demographics of other Central Asian countries give you a lot more. This article gives you an idea that there are still (in 2013) about 1.5 million Russians living there. I'd be surprised if there were one tenth of that amount left there. I'm sure it is quite deliberate to give a convoluted picture of the situation. We know who you are, you fool no one. 109.108.29.218 (talk) 19:16, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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