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Impressive indeed. The charts you have created make seeing and comprehending the information you have provided quick and easy. A couple of comments. 1) Formatting: The box on the right has some formatting issues in that the words overlap. The Big Box with all of the information is really well done, and the flags help each entry jump out. 2) Sources: I know that the CIA factbook and American sources in general are easy to find (and you mentioned that finding what source to trust was a bit of a challenge). But it might be worthwhile considering a country's own sources for that data as well. For example, why not use Fiji's own governmental statistics http://www.fiji.gov.fj/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=645&Itemid=196#t3 rather than the US (which is different)? You are subtly suggesting that the US somehow knows more about this than the country's own government. And I really doubt that it does -- unless the CIA is out there conducting the censues. 3) Box info -- There needs to be a date for the statistics for each country. Unless you want to update them every year -- it isn't clear if all of those are from 2000 or 2010 or when. You can probably put that in the population box for each country. 4) Intro paragraph: I think this is great. It tells the reader about the debates over what is Oceania and is smart and well-written. Radavis147 (talk) 00:49, 19 November 2010 (UTC)radavis147


This article is really impressive, the big chart is very well laid-out and informative. Having the flags of each country by the name is a nice touch. There is an abundance of links as well which makes it very easy for people to learn more about individual countries or languages. The notes and references are all very well organized and give helpful supplemental information, instead of just citing a book or a website.

Is there more to say about the different conceptions of what Oceania is? Perhaps it could have it it's own heading instead of being in the introduction and could discuss different ethnographers views of who belongs to Oceania and what the differing opinions are and how the people of Oceania self-identify--do they see themselves as a cohesive unit at all? Another section might be on different problems facing Oceania, perhaps the problem of obesity. After the chart, or before, a short analysis of the data could be insightful, such as an analysis of the trends in religion, literacy, urbanization, life expectancy, etc. Saxa228 (talk) 20:10, 18 November 2010 (UTC)


The introduction is adapted from the Wikipedia page for Oceania. I plan on rewriting it, based on sources that I have verified. I also plan on adding sections about future demographic predictions, as well as current demographic issues such as emigration and obesity.

Template:Oceania Labelled Map rendering problem

When {{Oceania Labelled Map}} is displayed to the left of the Oceania box that floats to the right, it has rendering problems in Safari on Mac & in Firefox on PC. Specifically, the click-able country labels floated above the graphic rather than on it. It looked OK in Firefox on Mac & in IE8 & Chrome on PC.

Mahalo for all the work that you have put into it. I tried twice to improve layout by reducing the amount of white space between the Template:Oceania Labelled Map & the Demographics of Oceania#Demographics by territory section, but it did not work. Both times the preview looked OK, but then I saw it was undone after my first attempt. Peaceray (talk) 06:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

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