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Delaware and Hudson Roster was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 7 September 2022 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Delaware and Hudson Railway. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Questions

What the hell is this nonsense about the Lackawaxen river being deepened for navigation from the Roebling Aquaduct to Honesdale?? There was a separate canal bed the entire way. Unless somebody knows better than I (and I've traced the canal prism the entire way) I'm going to fix it. RussNelson 19:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There were never any mines or coal in Honesdale.

Need a section about the amazing D&H Canal Co. Gravity RR which operated between Honesdale & Carbondale PA, from about 1829 to 1899, being succeeded by the D&H's Honesdale Branch. The Gravity RR at its peak transported an amazing 5 million tons of coal per year. - palmleaf

Done! See Delaware_and_Hudson_Gravity_Railroad. I wrote it as a separate page because it needs its own infobox. RussNelson 05:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The (very pretty) 1886 map doesn't show the D&H Canal, going from Kingston, NY to Honesdale, PA, though the text gives a good verbal description of the path.

D&H at Grand Central Terminal

According to this link the Delaware and Hudson also used the New York Central Railroad's Water Level Route to go as far south as Grand Central Terminal. I don't see too much about this in the article, and I almost considered adding a D&H category to GCT until somebody talked me out of it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 22:53, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed

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Station list; Y or N?

I had asked this question about the Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee Railroad earlier this year, and I got an overwhelming and understandable negative answer. However there's already a station list for the Boston and Albany Railroad article, at least for the main line. So shouldn't there be one here too? -------User:DanTD (talk) 23:52, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a fan; that information would really belong on articles about lines. The list on the B&A article is unreferenced and by its own admission misleading ("The route of the Boston and Albany line changed several times over its lifetime"). I wouldn't call it a model. Mackensen (talk) 23:55, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OR back-and-forth

The following back-and-forth over OR in the article's Legacy section, inappropriately conducted on the main page, and grossly inappropriately waged in response, was located here for hashing out:

71.233.84.208 (talk) 12:27, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Looks at comment) That's a terrible thing to add to a page. It's the responsibility of the editor who adds the information to add the citation, not make work for others. Mackensen (talk) 20:02, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline is confused

Delaware and Hudson Railway#Delaware and Hudson Railway (1968-1988) is a long section without a single citation, so I can't readily figure out how to clean this point up.

The section includes these two statements:

"After New York and Pennsylvania were hit by Hurricane Agnes in 1972, which destroyed almost all of the EL mainline west of Binghamton, NY and following the bankruptcy of numerous northeastern U.S. railroads in the 1970s, including D&H and E-L, N&W lost control of Dereco stock."
"Guilford's plans for expanded service did not come to fruition, and after two intense labor strikes, Guilford declared the D&H bankrupt in 1988, abandoning its operation."

The first clearly implies that the D&H went bankrupt sometime in the 1970s. There certainly were numerous bankruptcies in that period, from Penn Central on down, but my recollection is that the D&H was not one of them. I thought the D&H was still operating, with no bankruptcy, as of 1985, when my involvement in railroad bankruptcies ended. My recollection is consistent with the second statement, which puts the D&H bankruptcy in 1988.

Can anyone straighten this out? JamesMLane t c 07:19, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dates of last D&H passenger trains Albany-Binghamton, NY

SEE Notes (14) and (15). Train numbers are correct. Albany-Binghamton was January 24, 1963. Last Binghamton-Albany was January 25, 1963, after a consist overnight at Binghamton. Please UPDATE “by 1963”, which is far too nonspecific. SOURCE: “The Delaware and Hudson”, by Jim Shaughnessy (Howell-North Books, 1967; reissued 1997 by Syracuse University Press). 174.212.98.110 (talk) 20:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See above. 174.212.173.136 (talk) 02:19, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
See my prior Talk comment dated 4/23/22. For correcting a lazy “later in 1963”, I not only got deleted but also blocked! I call this what it is: VANDALISM. 174.212.173.136 (talk) 02:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

{{Edit semi-protected}} Is a good way to get someone's attention. If you're saying you're the IP from December 2021, then Blue Riband (I think?) thought you were a previously blocked user returning to edit anonymously. I can't speak to that. Got a page number for Shaughnessy? I do own the 1967 edition. Mackensen (talk) 02:37, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]