Talk:Deep Note/Archive 1

Archive 1

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Someone should add the information available at http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2005/05/tiny-music-makers-pt-3-thx-sound.html to this entry in the wiki.

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Two sentences and three links, I'm wondering if this should just be merged and redirected to THX. func(talk) 05:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

If anyone has the mp3...

I know we can't post the file (though fair use might theoretically come into play), but it would be interesting to run the mp3 through Audacity; it gives you a visual representation of your file, and I would love to see what the Deep Note looks like. So, if you have it, tell me and we'll work something out. Deltabeignet 02:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Annoying

This sound annoys me :P

Didn't Jean Michel Jarre use something (vaguely) similar on Oxygene part III?

Tons of people have used this. It seems kind of pointless to include a list of music that uses a vague, dense rising sound outside of a discussion of the origins of Deep Note.Torc 01:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

History of the note

I have read in a few places about how this sound was created (c code, etc...) including sites such as this. However, I am yet to find such a site that would be classed as reliable. Has anyone else had any luck here?-Localzuk^(talk) 19:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Huh?

"It was created by Dr. James "Andy" Moorer[1], then an employee of the Lucasfilm Computer Division, in 1985. The sound is used on trailers for THX-certified movie theatres and video releases; it debuted in the THX trailer shown before the 1983 premiere of Return of the Jedi in Los Angeles." What? - Zone46 17:13, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed this as well. The thx.com source does indeed back up the 1983 date, but I can't seem to find anything about 1985 in the James A. Moorer Personal Website source. The change in the article text (from 1982 to 1985) was made in these two edits by User:Tregoweth, perhaps we should ask him/her? -- TomPreuss 02:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I was just about to post that exact same thing. If you go back into the history, you can see that it originally said 1992, instead of 1995 JayKeaton 22:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Varese

Ionization uses two sirens two sound like two sirens. It wasn't an attempt to create a sound where a single tone is spread into a dense chord or cluster; there is no specification of pitch nor any change in density. I think there's a stronger argument for tracing it back to organ swells or something like Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor.

James Moorer or Dana Kaproff?

If the THX theme "Deep Note" was allegedly written by James Moorer in 1983, then why was it prominently featured in Dana Kaproff's score for the 1979 film, "When a Stranger Calls"? Kaproff used this theme multiple times throughout his 1979 underscore. A brilliant score, by the way.

Who really wrote that theme? Kaproff or Moorer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Socality (talk • contribs) 09:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

you cannot BY LAW copywrite noises

you can copywrite riffs, lyrics, internal instrument design, but not noises. I don't understand how this got copywrite status, its a rising 3 wave oscilator, are you saying we can't use oscilators anymore incase we replicate this?! I studied music at college, please do not tell me that you can copywrite noises or I will apply to have my fart sampled and copywrited tommorow. (is disgusted with state of law surrounding sound in general. plans to make whatever from now on.) notveryanoncauseyoulogmyip:O 23:17 GMT friday 12th feburary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.228.193 (talk) 23:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

The article describes the sounds composition as being trademarked and not copyrighted. I don't know much about trademarks, but you can trademark all kinds of things that can't be copyrighted. In addition, recordings are covered under separate copyright than compositions. So if you record your fart that recording is covered under copyright law, but that doesn't necessarily mean that other farts would violate your copyright. Kravitch (talk) 05:58, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Audio file hosted by USPTO. Should we link to it?

The USPTO [United States Patent and Trademark Office] hosts a copy of the sound.
http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/soundmarks/74309951.mp3
linked from:
http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/soundmarks/index.jsp
[Search within page for 'THX logo theme']
Would it be appropriate to add one or both of these to 'External Links'?
Please choose one:

1. Neither is appropriate. Leave them both out.
   
2. Direct audio file link. Readers don't need context.
   
3. Link to USPTO soundmark page. Readers can search for 'THX logo theme' too.
   
4. Link to both. Yay links w00t!
   

-- 12.218.76.10 (talk) 04:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
OK, it's been over a year; I'm picking 2 and linking the audio file directly.
-- 12.218.76.10 (talk) 09:36, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Untitled

Does anybody have any direct information from Dr. Moorer on where he got the idea for Deep Note? The section of the article pointing to "Spaced" seems like it's stated factually, but I don't see any confirmation from Moorer that this is indeed the source for the sound.

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