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Debian 0.91 screenshot

Besides the Wheezy screenshot in the infobox, the History section features captures for Etch and Squeeze. I think that a screenshot of Debian 0.91 would greatly enhance the article.

The distribution is about 35 MiB. It can be installed on a virtual machine. The hard disk should not be bigger than 512 MiB. After the installation, the console should look like this:


                        *** Debian Linux 0.90 BETA ***

Copyright (C) 1994 Ian A. Murdock <imurdock@shell.portal.com> under the terms
of the GNU Public License.  Please refer to the GNU Public License for details.

debra.example.org login: _

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I hope that this thumbnail helps:

84.127.80.114 (talk) 20:00, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Steam (2)

This was the previous discussion.

The edit about SteamOS is breaking the focus among other problems. On the other hand, Valve is tempting Debian developers and the temptation seems to work. Could the editors add an appropriate sentence with a citation in the "Derivatives" section? 84.127.80.114 (talk) 08:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Official architecture ports

A port is official only if it is officially supported, i.e., it is part of stable. "Official Debian port" in the Debian Wiki is not a reliable statement. 84.127.80.114 (talk) 16:57, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Uhm, arm64 has been moved from buildd.debian-ports.org to buildd.debian.org. It's not just an entry in the wiki, we are actually building official arm64 packages now and we are planning to include arm64 in Jessie. I don't see how this could be more official. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.206.40.85 (talk) 22:05, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I repeat, it is official if it is part of stable: security support, official disc images, etc. ia64 and s390 are official, arm64 is not. The only ways to be official before the Jessie release are to provide those elements as Wheezy 7.6, Wheezy-And-A-Half or to be part of Wheezy backports. Theoretically, Debian could release a new architecture for stable, although I am not aware that such a thing has ever happened. I would expect this kind of event to be announced at least by the release team. In any case, a port is official when it actually is official, not because it will be or is called "official". 84.127.80.114 (talk) 07:24, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, it's going to be a port for Jessie when it pops up on the main buildds now so I don't understand why not adding it right away. But if you insist waiting until Jessie has been released, then well, go ahead. I still think the article should contain the information that arm64 is actually now being built as part of the official buildd servers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.206.51.66 (talk) 13:07, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Nevertheless, the information has encyclopedic value.[1] 84.127.80.114 (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

License in infobox

The purpose of an infobox is to summarize key facts that appear in the article; the less information, the better.[2] The fact that Debian is not entirely free software is in the first sentence of the lead; the body of the article explains more about licenses and the non-free area. DFSG are notable and "DFSG-compliant" is a precise term to summarize the licensing model. 84.127.80.114 (talk) 02:37, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

May Fsandlinux state the rationale for this edit? 84.127.80.114 (talk) 03:46, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I know very little English. These changes, Debian page, other Linux distributions made to be compatible with pages. "(Mainly the GNU GPL)" he did not remove it from the page, as this is appropriate for you?
In fact, Linux distributions licensing information ise Webconverg, Tizen pages in a similar way; "Build script", "Linux kernel, such as" I think that is subdivided.--Fsandlinux (talk) 17:27, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Webconverg and Tizen are bad examples. These are the good guides: manual of style, good article criteria, and featured article criteria.
Infobox is for key facts: only the most important one, if possible. Also, refs should be in the article body, not in the infobox. 84.127.80.114 (talk) 07:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Infobox key facts

OpenBSD may be a featured article, but this is not enough, and we have contributors that have trouble reading the guidelines. This WikiProject really needs a lighthouse: this article should become the model. When the FA preparation is finished, I encourage editors to give their best and improve it further.

I will tighten the infobox content. This means decisions such as dropping "Micro" and "unofficial". However, I would not drop "Hurd"; there are not many distributions running Hurd and this is the kind of link that improves an infobox. If someone spots a rarely supported platform, this would apply too, otherwise the text will be "x86-64, IA-32, ARM and five more" as per popularity. 84.127.80.114 (talk) 07:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)