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A fact from Death by Chocolate appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 January 2016 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that President Obama shared a Death by Chocolate cake with the crew of Air Force One?

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Rewrite

While I still think this article should be deleted as unencyclopedic, I've rewritten it to remove unverifiable assertions and focus just on the dishes that might be called DBC. The claim that the recipes are complicated is gone, while I replaced the example of a specific (and fictional) dish with some more general examples. I also removed the mention of the Diane Mott Davidson book, which is actually called "Dying for Chocolate." [1] | Klaw Talk 02:58, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it wasn't much fictional - the DBC cake I've had has 6 layers of chocolate, then icing and mousse, then the sauce - I'll admit I added sprinkles. Here's a picture: tasty! I'm not much concerned about the claim on difficulty, as it does depend on the recipe. I've never even heard of the book.

In my experience, DBC is marked by having the varying layers, but a Google search for recipes seems to indicate that most aren't multiply layered (being intended for home baking, not professional dessert chefs.)-- stillnotelf has a talk page 03:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken on "fictional." But in my defense, you didn't provide a source link in the article, which is why the example appeared fictional to me.

As for the recipes, recipes for professional chefs differ from those for home chefs in quantities produced rather than in difficulty. | Klaw Talk 03:22, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in negotations for permission to re-use that image, BTW - I know the chief editor of the paper :) -- stillnotelf has a talk page 03:34, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Trademarked term

Turns out that DBC is a trademarked term owned by the parent company of the Bennigan's restaurant chain. To the extent that it's used by other restaurants to refer to dessert creations, those other companies are (probably) infringing on S&A's trademark. Should these latter uses of the term be eliminated from the article? Should the article even stand here, since the term properly refers to a very specific menu item at one restaurant chain? | Mr. Darcy talk 15:44, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt they'd win a trademark infringement case, because I'm sure many such recipes existed long before that trademark was granted. The fact that it is trademarked does belong in the article, however. We certainly shouldn't remove the other types of DBC from the article, especially given that the large majority of Death by Chocolate is not Death by Chocolate™. -- stillnotelf has a talk page 18:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

still trademarked?

the article on Bennigan's says that the owners of the franchise have gone bankrupt. What does that mean for the trademarked status of "Death by Chocolate"? --86.135.177.33 (talk) 17:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Restaurant

There exists a chain of restaurants called "Death by Chocolate" [2] in NZ, been around since way back forever. I remember going to it as a little kid and getting a certificate for eating the super duper gigantic meal or something (I was one VERY hungry little boy back then who ate heaps). Mathmo ^Talk 04:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You must be young because the site you refer to says the whole grand idea was thought of in NZ in 1995. I'm assuming there is no New Zealandian calendar as opposed to the Julian or gregorian, but from the article the name was used long before a traveling Kiwi brought it home and pretended to originate it. 24.85.252.83 (talk) 01:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Page name

It is not clear why the page name is all capitalized, as if this is a trademarked name. Throughout the article, none of the words "death by chocolate" are capitalized, except to refer to Bennigan's Death by Chocolate martini. The capitalization issue will also affect the DYK nomination, so pinging @Northamerica1000: to respond soon. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Most of the sources refer to these types of dishes and events as a proper noun (e.g. [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]). I have corrected this in the article, capitalizing the term. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:59, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Incomplete sentences, etc.

The first paragraph of the trademark section is strangely written and has some incomplete sentences.

"Contrary to previous Death by Chocolate references and claims, DbC aka Mort au Chocolat originated in 1981 at Les Anges restaurant in Santa Monica, California. It was the result of a collaboration between the restaurant's Creator/Proprietor, Jeff Fields and its Pastry Chef, Claude Koeberle, himself the son of a Maitre Ouvrier de France. , mentioned mort du chocolat. The dessert was also featured in the, in which both the English and French names appeared. Composed of multiple chocolate layers - genoise, meringue, ganache, butter cream, and mousse - it was sauced with chocolate creme anglaise."

The first sentence seems weird and like it should cite which claims and references. The sentence "mentioned mort du chocolat" is missing it's first clause. The sentence "The dessert was also featured in the," is missing it's second clause. In both cases it seems that the sentence was meant to include the text of the citation. But both those citations are lacking links now. I was thinking of putting those in but I figured without a source it may be better to just delete those sentences or rewrite that section. Unsure what's the best change to make. GlauconAriston (talk) 04:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]