Talk:Dead Set

Running times

The first episode was 1hr10 including adverts last night - not 45 minutes. is the 45 minutes actually *not* including adverts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.70.93.16 (talk) 10:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's 45 minutes without the adverts. I recorded it last night and after I edited it by taking the adverts out the whole episode came to 45 minutes. - Charlr6 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlr6 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The episodes themselves would seem to be 25 minutes after adverts removed. Why is this article showing lengths with adverts? No other TV show does that....? 80.195.146.94 (talk) 11:09, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

After recording them and editing them so the adverts arn't on them the running times are as shown (rounded up): Episode 1 is 45 minutes - episode 2 is 21 minutes - episode 3 is 23 minutes - episode 4 is 23 minutes - episode 5 is 25 minutes. With the DVD being 138 minutes, this adds up to 138 minutes also. I've added the times to the episode list. I don't mind if you get rid of them, but if you keep it there can someone neaten it out a bit please?- Charlr6 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlr6 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Feature-length version

4OD is now offering a feature-length version at 129 minutes. I haven't seen the individual episodes yet (going to watch some now), so could someone put this into the article, and mention if it adds any extra scenes or not? JaffaCakeLover (talk) 11:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Broadcast dates

Although these dates are probable, is there a 100% reliable source or is this addition just pure speculation? magnius (talk) 12:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added the "Citation needed" template as there is no source.81.96.131.189 (talk) 16:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

listings and they go up to the 28th, yet Dead Set is not listed as showing, instead the sit-com Friends is showing in the probable time slot. I have removed air dates from info box and hidden details of air dates/episodes from the main list until solid confirmation. magnius (talk) 17:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

It is definitely airing in October 2008, [1]81.96.131.189 (talk) 21:55, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I have the dates back to what I put in because when Jamie Winstone was on The Paul O'Grady Show it clearly stated that it will be on weeknights from Mon 27 Oct 2008 at 10pm in a preview clip of the show. (90.195.110.189 (talk) 22:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC))

Older title

Wasn't this going to be called "The Town That Bores You" at one stage? (i can see why they changed it, mind) 82.153.230.138 (talk) 16:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Urban Dead tie-in

Should this be mentioned?

From http://www.urbandead.com/news.html: "With the launch of Charlie Brooker's Dead Set on E4 and 4DVD, the Borehamwood outbreak is now open to Urban Dead players, with permanent zombification, fast zombies and a battle for the Big Brother house. The map will remain open for four weeks."

No-genius (talk) 09:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Why? Its about as relevant as a bunch of friends dressing up in costumes to watch the show. Its not an official tie-in. If the Urban Dead has a wiki page, mention it there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.183.80.133 (talk) 10:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

It looks like an official tie-in, seeing as they're giving away 5 Dead Set DVDs.No-genius (talk) 13:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Our local newspaper is giving away Dead Set DVD's doesn't make it the official newspaper of the series, just means they bought some DVD's. magnius (talk) 14:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Are they signed? no? http://www.urbandead.com/deadset.html No-genius (talk) 14:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Not hard to get them signed, still doesn't make it official. This does not warrant inclusion. magnius (talk) 00:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

It is official, the deal was done with C4 to promote the show. It even features an exclusive trailer for the show. --Occono (talk) 16:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you can provide some reference as proof, something that can be linked to from the article, then it may be eligable for inclusion, but without references it is meaningless magnius (talk) 16:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

British style

some mention should be made of the more bleak ending, common to british apocalyptic and horror stories, as opposed to the american ending of zombie films etc where normally at least a few characters survive, or at worst its left ambigous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.183.55 (talk) 23:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Why? That would be opinion. A simple explanation of the plot is sufficient - this is an encyclopedia, not a media studies debate. Besides many of the George Romero films have a similarly bleak endings. As far as I concerned the article is 100% fine as it is, anything else added would be pure flannel added to massage the editor's ego 77.96.48.193 (talk) 16:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

French translation

Should a translation of the French radio broadcast be provided (if available) or do others think the summary provided in the episode synopsis is sufficient? I wouldn't mind seeing it myself but I'm not sure if that is excessive info in wiki terms. Millahnna (talk) 04:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree It Should be translated if anyone can translate it plz could it be possible to edit this message and tell us wat it means from Alem Livsa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.244.29 (talk) 11:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Here is the message, in (grammaticaly and syntaxicaly incorrect) French : Les bateaux sont archis-complets, et personne peut quitter ou rentrer dans le pays. Il est vivement recommandé à tout le monde d'aller dans les abris d'urgence les plus proches immédiatement. >> translation : Boats are overcrowded and leaving or entering the country is now impossible. People are strongly advised to reach their nearest emergency shelter as soon as possible. -86.74.3.133 (talk) 00:45, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Riq

Is it worth noting that Riq is the only character in the whole series not to get infected by the virus? Jammy (talk) 13:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Not that we know of anyway, but just because we don't he him shambling around as a zombie, doesn't mean he wasn't brought back off camera. Not really noteworthy magnius (talk) 14:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Well as he died because of a gunshot there's no way he could of turned into a zombie. You have to of been bitten before you died in order to get infected. Jammy (talk) 19:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I still don't think that it is a noteworthy addition, Alex and Patrick also died without turning (for obvious reasons) as did Kelly's work colleague in the first episode (the one who was being chomped on by the other colleague) magnius (talk) 19:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok I understand it's a not a noteworthy addition, that was what my question was in the first place. And Riq is different from Alex and Patrick, because I'm saying Riq was the only character to not get infected in ANY WAY, Alex and Patrick did get infected, if you get bitten in any way whilst alive you get infected, which is what happened to them. Riq died not because of a zombie. Jammy (talk) 20:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

In most zombie films, a character who died in *any* way becomes a zombie. I am not sure whether this is applied to Dead Set. Though I think the reason he is not zombified is he is neither housemate or BB staff - only those involved in BB become zombies. Possibly :P 195.183.80.133 (talk) 11:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Is the really still the case anymore? I know the Resident Evil series and of course the original Night of the Living Dead went the "any death = zombie" route. But to my recollection, most modern zombie flicks (say from the 80s on) have stuck with bites only. Regardless, I would agree with the consensus that his not getting infected is not significant for this particular article. Millahnna (talk) 04:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Viewing figures

Should the viewing figures be listed as simple the figures for E4, discounting the repeats? Right now we have a combined score of E4 and E4+1 figures, but usually repeats included as far as I know. magnius (talk) 17:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

E4+1 should be included as it is just E4 on timeshift. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.131.189 (talk) 05:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Zombie

I notice that the word 'zombie' is used in the article when it is never used in the series? Wills316 (talk) 17:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)wills316

It may not be used in the series, but Charlie Brooker himself calls it a zombie apocalypse and refers to them as zombies which is good enough [2]. I don't think we need to complicate this article with an argument over the definition of the creatures involved when it is quite clear they are zombies...the walking dead magnius (talk) 19:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

It is a 'rule' of zombie films that the word 'zombie' is never used. There is a reference to this in Shaun of the Dead 195.183.80.133 (talk) 11:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Barack Obama

What's that last reference have to do with anything?--Kamikaze14 (talk) 21:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Brooker used the second half of his column to rebutt Pegg's comments about Dead Set. The first half, and the title, were about Obama. --McGeddon (talk) 21:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Goldfrapp

Not sure if it's notable, but the intro to "Oompa Radar" by Goldfrapp is playing in the first episode. As far as I could tell this was the only pop music in the entire series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.61.63 (talk) 19:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

What about 'Grace Kelly' by Mika played during the initial attack on the BB audience? Its being played as part of a montage for Pippa's post-eviction interview but plays over the attack on the audience and crew. It finishes at the point throat-less Davina slumps over 195.183.80.133 (talk) 12:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

A clip of 'Something Kinda Ooohh' by Girls Aloud is also played to the eviction crowd at the start. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snailsarefriends (talk • contribs) 14:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Pippa's death

I think there should be a mention on her death on the "DVD Release" article - not just that she was bitten by her mother but where and in what place was she bitten. Any one agree? 217.43.239.254 (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Sources

http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/30877/dead-set-licensed-four-new-territories
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118001314.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&nid=2573

Sources for the international broadcasts if they are needed. DS specifically notes still no word on US release. Don't know if anyone needs that tidbit. Millahnna (mouse)talk 08:18, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Plot Summary rewrites

Since the last time I visited the page, the plot summaries had sprawled in length considerably. I just put them through my summary meat grinder and cut the whole beast down by almost half. However, since I'm in the U.S., I just put a request in at WP UK TV to double check it for U.K. spelling and word usage; feel free to beat them to it. To me it seems like U.K. source material warrant U.K. spelling.

What got cut; a lot of details about tertiary characters mostly (like the guy Kelly is chatting up at work). All of the Big Brother cameos are listed in the cast list so I removed their specific references in the individual episodes (except for Davina who had a lot of interaction with the main characters); they mostly hogged up space how they were written. However, I can totally see how people might want to see which cameos were in which specific episodes. I don't think it would be all that hard to add those references back in if someone is familiar with the Big Brother franchise and feels it is warranted. To that end, if you need any help, lemme know. Millahnna (mouse)talk 13:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Charlie Brooker's cameo

The cast list notes that Charlie Brooker appears in the series as a zombie. However, I've seen the series a number of times and can't seem to see him. Does anyone know where Brooker is in the series? If he isn't, the note can be removed. Kit (talk) 22:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, I have no idea. Even IMDB, for all of it's frequent errors, doesn't list him there. I don't have the DVD, though; is it something that's mentioned in a bonus feature somewhere? I know none of the various youtube videos about the series that I watched at the time mentioned it. Millahnna (mouse)talk 00:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 05:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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Dead Set (TV series) → Dead Set

This is unquestionably more notable than the album, which is why the album was disambiguated in the first place. Relisted. Favonian (talk) 21:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC). Unreal7 (talk) 20:51, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the intended target already redirects here. Should be uncontroversial. GRAPPLE X 21:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

• Comment the target used to be a disambiguation page -- 70.24.251.208 (talk) 06:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
• Comment - Dead Set (album) is still alive and well. I undid the editing. --George Ho (talk) 12:22, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
• Support – The TV series has 44394 page views in the last 90 days. The album has 6491. To me that's a high enough ratio to show that the TV series is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC – especially when there's only one alternative in the dab page (so navigating a hatnote to the other destination requires only one click). It's a great album, but the other topic is primary. —BarrelProof (talk) 03:43, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment but the plain name used to redirect here. So anyone not reading the hatnote and getting frustrated would just not go to the album. And hypothetically, most people going to the album would have hit the TV page first, so you I would suggest tripling the number for the album and removing the same for the TV show, which ends up being around 25k vs 20k... which is why an order of magnitude (10x) difference in hit counts is suggested by many people for a hit ratio primarity. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 07:19, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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Title a reference to Ben Elton novel

The title appears to reference Dead Famous (novel), which was about a murder on the Big Brother set. It seems almost certain th at the Ben Elton novel is the inspiration for the series but I was not able to find a reference to this anywhere. - Jackpickard1985