Talk:Dead Kids (South Park)
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[edit]Please do not add mention of pop cultural references, continuity notes, trivia, or who the targets of a given episode's parody are, without accompanying such material with an inline citation of a reliable, published, secondary source. Adding such material without such sources violates Wikipedia's policies pertaining to Verifiability, No Original Research, and Synthesis.
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We Should Not Erase How The Episode Was Received
[edit]I find the statistical ratings decline to be quite fascinating. Also, IGN is just one of many reviews that can be added.2601:447:4101:41F9:2000:DDE7:28C9:A3C2 (talk) 22:55, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- The reviews are already referenced in the External Links section. And better cited. So you are repeating information already in the article. That’s why the section is extraneous. - SanAnMan (talk) 23:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Every episode article I've seen for South Park a "Reception" section, so it's only fitting that there's one here too. These ratings statistics are also fascinating.2601:447:4101:41F9:2000:DDE7:28C9:A3C2 (talk) 00:45, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
- The format is now changing. Get used to it. The ratings statistics are not relevant to the episode summary. You are now edit warring and need to stop. Also you can’t properly cite things, adding just the link is sloppy. I did move the A.V. Club review to where all the other reviews are now. Stop edit warring. - SanAnMan (talk) 01:50, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Was The Episode A Parody of Jessica Jones?
[edit]If so, that section that was erased should be restored.2601:447:4101:41F9:2000:DDE7:28C9:A3C2 (talk) 23:32, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
"the entire Glee club has died" - reference to Julie Brown song "The Home-Coming Queen's got a Gun".
I Don't See Why A Notice Should Be Issued
[edit]My edits were reverted first and are backed by reliable resources. I also felt the fact that South Park did that low and also shaved off a large .59 in the Nielsen ratings for its season premiere was intriguing, which is why I included that edit. Other South Park episode pages have "Reception" sections too.2601:447:4101:41F9:2000:DDE7:28C9:A3C2 (talk) 02:00, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Nightscream, you really ought to have more respect for other editors. A simple "uncited material" is more than enough to get your point across. Claiming "fraudulent citing" is the same as claiming "bad faith" which goes against one of wikipedia's most fundamental policies of "assume good faith" (WP:GF)). I included the theme song and character in the text because anyone who had ever watched Jessica Jones would have immediately recognised the music and her leather jacket and voice-overs. It's not some vague riddle or subjective interpretation. Providing a source for some material does not always mean you claim that source covers everything in a whole paragraph. If non-contentious text improves the article there's no reason to revert it. I've looked through your talkpage and contribution history and there consistently appears confrontational and aggressive arguments, insulting or demeaning edit summaries, using insults and profanity when responding to editors comments and an uncompromising reverting of material that doesn't absolutely match the source to the letter. Please try to show some respect for other editors so that wikipedians don't face an unpleasant environment as they try to participate in the wikipedia project. Shabidoo | Talk 03:42, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
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