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Use of Persian instead of Iranian

I'm puzzled as to how this group can have been both Persian and Caspian/Zaza? Had they spoken Persian, how could their offshoots have reverted to their former tongues without displaying signs of massive linguistic influence? ZanLJackson (talk) 10:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Anti-Daylamite sentiment in the article

Daylamites seem to have accumulated so much enemies overtime, so it refelects on the bitter (belittling edits, removal of maps, ommissions..etc)

Since we can't edit, we can let the curious researcher earn where does this petty Anti-Daylamite feelings come from

Daylamites represent a strong native highlanders element, described by the Greeks as troublesome highlanders (Any invaders naturally hates Daylamites)
The Daylamites defeated the Christian Axumite state in Yemen
The Daylamites defeated the native Yemeni apostates who tried to rebel against the Caliph
The Justanid Daylamites in Daylam fought the Sunni Abbasids, intitally as Zoroastrians (popularized by Arabs as Majus)
The Justanid Daylamites enabled the first Zaydi (Shia state), a religious sect thats rejected by Both modern Shia & Sunni muslims
The Buyid Daylamites became the defacto rulers of the Abbasid Caliphs (on the expense of the Arab authority & Turk ghilman)
Hassan-i_Sabbah Made Daylam the Post-Fatimid Ismaili power base & laid havoc against Sunni & Christians, Ismaili sect are considered heretics by modern Iranians & Arabs alike.

The general disapproval of the Daylamite identity is strong in Iran & the Arab states, in Iran the term Gilaki, although Gilan is the easily conquered valley that was taken by every army that passed by the Caspian, opposed to the Daylam fortress-like region that preserves the earliest Proto-Iranian element (if not Pre-Iranian), many Dynastic families have Daylamite lineages (Hashemite, Alid, Ismaili), all represent an undesired element in the modern Hashemite controlled Iran & Arab clan ruled states, where Daylamite identity is suppressed.

For this purpose I recommend more Non-Muslim, Non-Iranian, Non-Arab, Non-Turk unbiased researchers treat this article as an international article & help expand this article, as the Daylamite artice will not be probably edited by the typical religious Iranian or Arab. Droveaxle (talk) 08:11, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Totally inaccurate map

The map attached to this article seem to be the work of a novice and one largely ignorant of historical geography. The towns and villages are randomly placed all over the palace, modern names are mixed with medieval name, modern Turkish spelling is mixed with pseudo-Arab spelling ("Al-borz"??!?!?!). And the result, a total misguiding and misguided map of harmful nature rather than helpful. Amazing what kind of stuff appear on Wiki!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.158.238 (talk) 11:26, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the map is poor, I tried to fix it, but apparently I angered some users here. the solution should be including more than one map to show the geographic evolution of the name. As the greater Dayalm region geography changed over time (like most regions), the self-proclaimed enemies of Daylam prefer to see Daylam as tiny as possible, its typical small village peasant mentality that exists worldwide. Droveaxle (talk) 08:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The map isn't good, I agree. But at least it's a lot more accurate than the one you're trying to force on every article. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]