Talk:David Hope, Baron Hope of Craighead

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Contradiction

This article suggests Lord Hope graduated with his LL.B in 1965, and became an Advocate in the same year. It mentions nothing about professional legal training, or the 'Deviling' process which, today, would mean it would be at least four years between and LL.B and practising as an advocate; and even that long a timeframe would be exceptionally short by these standards. --Breadandcheese (talk) 13:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right that it seems strange, but Who's Who says: "Education .... Edinburgh Univ. (LLB 1965) Career .... Admitted Faculty of Advocates, 1965". The biography at the Supreme Court website (here) says he was admitted in 1965 and the biography on the Strathclyde University website (here) says he "practised at the Scottish Bar as an advocate for 24 years" before being appointed Lord President (1989 - 24 = 1965). It could be he's referred to the start of his devilling as being admitted.... it's a puzzle. The question is do we trust the (admittedly sparse) sources, or do we remove the dates to prevent (potential) misinformation? Johnhousefriday (talk) 15:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the 1960s it was usual to take the LLB in parallel with training. Certainly many apprentice solicitors followed that route and it would be open to advocate devils. David Hope would have had little difficulty in combining practice and study. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajg1941 (talk • contribs) 23:15, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Last paragraph uses primary sources and not neutral

"2024: Opposition to Labour government’s proposal to retire members of the House of Lords at 80 The incoming Labour government in the King’s Speech of 2024 signalled its intention to reduce the numbers in the House of Lords (then approaching 800) in various ways including instituting a retirement age of 80 for all. The 86-year-old Lord Hope of Craighead (not 68 as he initially described himself) spoke against this, and was not willing to accept any mandatory retirement age."

Two of three footnotes for this paragraph contains primary sources and only other source is a political magazine "Private Eye", which have not proper citation and I am not sure it is reliable. Also, "not 68…" comment is comes from a primary source, his own speech, and its just "slip of tongue", not much more than that. It's quite disturbing to see this sort of obvious and also cheap signs of hatred towards a living person in Wikipedia. Prince Andrei Bolkonsky (talk) 14:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]