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Reviewer: Jburlinson (talk · contribs) 04:34, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be glad to review this article. I'm sorry you've had to wait so long for a response to your nomination. Comments to follow in the next 1-5 days. Thanks in advance for all your work!--Jburlinson (talk) 04:34, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I've had trouble finding the time to get started. I'll need another few days. --Jburlinson (talk) 08:53, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Here's my initial review. I've made several minor changes to wording and grammar in the article. If any of these are objectionable to any editor, please let me know. Otherwise, I think the article is very close to GA -- it's really well done and very interesting.
Hi Jburlinson, thank you for your review and contributions. Much appreciated! I've added my comments below. I've added citations where needed and/or distributed them about (eg. for some of the quotes, they often came from the same source, but I just didn't over-cite).
Thanks for addressing all the points listed above. And thanks to you and everyone else who has contributed to this article. It contains some interesting material and is an asset to the film project on WP.--Jburlinson (talk) 07:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • Minor changes have been made for spelling, typos, punctuation & wording.
  • Spot checking reveals no problems with copyright violations.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.


2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).

There are a number of statements that have either no in-line citations or faulty ones. Here are some I have found so far:

  • "Starting in 1984, Fincher began to focus on music videos. He directed videos for various artists including singer-songwriters Rick Springfield, Martha Davis, Paula Abdul, rock band The Outfield, and R&B singer Jermaine Stewart." -- needs cite
Done Done
  • "Fincher's 1986 music video for "We Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off", was the biggest commercial success for Stewart." -- source does not menton Stewart.
I couldn't find a source. Stewart is a bit obscure, so I've added a more famous example instead, George Michael. Done
  • "During production, Fincher was hampered by disagreements with the film studio over the budget and screenplay." -- needs cite
Slightly reworded and added. Done
  • "Fincher directed the 2010 film The Social Network, a biographical drama about Facebook founder, Mark Zuckerberg and his legal battles. The screenplay was written by Aaron Sorkin, who adapted it from the book The Accidental Billionaires. It stars Jesse Eisenberg as Zuckerberg, with a supporting cast of Andrew Garfield, Justin Timberlake, Armie Hammer and Max Minghella. Principal photography started in October 2009 in Massachusetts and the film was released one year afterwards to wide acclaim." -- needs citation. The two sources cited are not relevant to the content.
Slightly reworded and added. Done
  • " Fincher worked closely with screenwriter Steven Zaillian to analyze the novel and develop the film adaptation." -- needs cite
  • "Known for his meticulous eye for detail and perfectionist qualities, Fincher performs thorough research when casting actors to ensure their suitability for the part. "He's really good at finding the one detail that was missed. He knows more than anybody", said colleague Max Daly. "He's just scary smart, sort of smarter than everyone else in the room", said producer Laura Ziskin." -- each quotation needs an inline citation.
  • "He does not normally use hand-held cameras during filming, instead preferring cameras on a tripod. Fincher said, "Handheld has a powerful psychological stranglehold. It means something specific and I don’t want to cloud what’s going on with too much meaning." -- needs cite(s)
All above, done. Done
  • "The writer, Piers McCarthy, argues "that the protagonists of these films are not totally in control of their actions but are subject to darker, inner impulses", as quoted from a book by Frank Krutnik." -- I think there's some confusion with this citation. The quotation comes from Krutnik, and is quoted in an article by McCarthy. It would like be better to cite Krutnik directly.
The quote comes from Krutnik, but he's not talking about Fincher's films. McCarthy is just using his quote to describe the films. I've now reworded it.. does it look better now? Otherwise we can think of something else! Thanks, Just Lizzy(talk) 18:55, 27 March 2020 (UTC) Done[reply]
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2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment. Pass as GA