Talk:Dave McNally/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lizzy150 (talk · contribs) 11:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'll review this article! Though I'm more of a Dodgers fan, haha, but the Orioles are pretty cool too. Here are my comments:

Lead

• Second paragraph - you don't need to mention his birth date "October 31, 1942" again. It's already in the first paragraph!
• "perished" - 'died'?
• "20 wins exactly" - do you even need the word 'exactly' there?
• "worked as a car dealer before dying of cancer in 2002" - perhaps rephrase to: 'worked as a car dealer until his death from cancer in 2002'?

Major league career

• "Fitting in (1962–65)" - I don't have an issue with this heading, but I just think it sounds informal. I would've used 'Career beginnings'?
  • Changed it slightly differently. I want it to reflect that his position as a major league starter was not really solidified until he'd been in the majors a few years. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• "bone spur and calcium deposits" - perhaps add wikilinks to these conditions?
  • I linked bone spur, but I'm not sure there's a link for calcium deposits. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• "In this year's, he limited Cleveland" - do you mean 'In that year'? 1965?
• "The Orioles won the AL pennant" - 'the American League (AL) pennant' - and add wikilink
  • I already spelled out American League and abbreviated it in the last sentence of the 1964 section. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:03, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• "injecting cortisone" - wikilink 'cortisone'
• "McNally limited the White Sox" - needs wikilink to Chicago White Sox since this is the first time you mention it
• "Cy Young Award" - need wikilink
  • I already linked Cy Young Award in its first mention, at the end of the paragraph on the 1969 regular season. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• "in AL MVP voting" - in 'AL Most Valuable Player (MVP) voting' - and add wikilink
  • I already did that at the end of the 1968 section. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• "saying after the game he didn't have his best stuff" - is that he said, because that didn't make sense to me?
  • So, the source doesn't give his exact quote unfortunately-it's words are ""McNally...admitted he didn't have good stuff." Stuff is baseball slang, I think for effectiveness of pitches. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• "More money, fewer runs (1972–74)" - instead of 'More money', what about 'Salary increase'?
• "14 days later, he held.." - or perhaps 'Two weeks later'?
  • I put "Exactly two weeks," to show that it was specifically a 14-day time period. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Legacy and beyond

• Add wikilink to Sports Illustrated
• "According to John Helyar's book" - wikilink to his page
• "MLBPA player" - 'Major League Baseball Players Association (MLBPA) player'
• "Jean Hoffer, McNally's high school sweetheart, married him in 1961." - you could express this more simply by writing: 'McNally met Jean Hoffer in high school and they married in 1961.'
  • I'd make that change, except the source doesn't say they met in high school. I think the way it's worded more accurately reflects the source. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• "gave McNally a paycheck for working at his brewery" - perhaps 'employed McNally at his brewery during offseasons'? Not sure why paycheck is important?
• Wikilink 'hiccups'
• Wikilink 'wig'
• "auto business" - 'automotive industry' and wikilink
• Wikilink 'car dealership'
• Wikilink 'Maury Allen'
• "McNally lived five years longer" - perhaps 'McNally lived for another five years'?
• You should consider moving the 'Legacy' section below the 'Personal life', for chronological structure

General

• Sources - looks fine
• Images - fine
• Broad / Stable - yes
• Illustrated - yes
• Mostly well-written, just needs some refinement before promoting. Thanks, L150 11:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for making the changes and confirming that you had already linked AL, MVP, Award once. I've made a few tiny copyedits and wikilinked 'calcium deposits' in the first mention of it. Think we're good to pass now! L150 14:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)