Talk:Dasein ohne Leben

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Professor

Tagged the note about the meaning of "Professor" in German as original research. Also, I find the part of the note concerning whether professors were respected more as a symbol of authority in WW II than today to be dubious, but rather than tag the same note twice, I left it, but this part of the claim needs a citation or it should be removed. Mathglot (talk) 17:59, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

: "Professor" in German may mean Full professor, but it has other meanings as well. Conversely, Professors in English can be Full professors No, a German professor is always a full professor, if it's professional work, the honorary title exempt, which, by the way was not given at that time! See de:Professor AVS (talk) 20:55, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Avernarius: Read the German article de:Professor to see other meanings. As to the second half of that sentence, I can't respond as I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Although talk pages on en-wiki are supposed to be written in English so everyone can follow the argument, if the English is unclear, we can't participate; so if you would like to rewrite your second sentence in German, I will respond in English.

Speaking of language: your changes to the article are welcome and perfect English is not required. However a basic level of understandable English is necessary so that any needed corrections can be made based on your intent, so if you're having trouble formulating a clear statement of what you would like to add to the article, please come here to the Talk page and talk it over with other editors, so that acceptable wording can be worked out that will improve the article. Mathglot (talk) 00:06, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In no case a professor in Germany is a teacher. This is the message, the note gives (and must give) to the (american) reader. AVS (talk) 08:32, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Except for professors that have no classes at all and are purely involved in research or in an advisory/emeritus capacity, all professors are teachers, whatever the title painted on the door. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 20:10, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So it has to be still more spcifief (though I am sure, you know, what was meant) : in USA 'professor' means also teachers teaching in SCHOOLs, not so in Germany. Any professor in Germany has the obligation to lecture and does reseach (often by promoting postgraduates, payd by the customer or a 'Sonderforschungsbereich') and 'Wissenschaftliche Assistenten', payd by the university (mostly state financed) and a part of fhe professor's contract ('Berufungsverhandlungen'). By the way, there was a (mostly unsuccsessful) attempt here, to create a group of 'teach-only' professors. AVS (talk) 07:43, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't. I think what you are forgetting here, is that this is an article about a Nazi film, not an article about professors. There is already a Professor article, and many of the comments you make above would be perfectly appropriate there, because they would be relevant to the article topic. Here, such comments are off-topic and irrelevant. I encourage you to remove your note about professors from this article, and add it to the Professor article. All of this stuff about who pays what to whom, what obligations professors have in Germany vs. the United States, whether it's under contract or not, is entirely irrelevant here. Surely you must see that?

Look, I think this discussion about Professors is becoming a distraction from improving the article, and I don't really want to continue it here, but if you'd like to take it up at Talk:Professor, or simply make your addditions there, I'm sure they would be welcome there and nobody would have any objection. Happy editing! Mathglot (talk) 20:48, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removed garbled note as original research without substantiation

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AVS (talk) 20:37, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Avernarius: The content above appears to be a response to this edit. However, I don't understand what change, if any, you are proposing. Can you please propose a change either in a BEFORE-TEXT, AFTER-TEXT style, or REMOVE-THIS, ADD-THIS style so one can understand what change you would like to see here? Mathglot (talk) 23:50, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Even more clearly shown in de:Führererlass: GOOGLE trans shows the importance «A leader's decree or a leader's order was an arrangement of Adolf Hitler , who had the power of law for all authorities and all German nationals on the territory of the German Reich . The confirmation of a guide-book by other constitutional bodies was neither necessary nor foreseen. A driving license could change existing law or set new law ». AVS (talk) 06:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Truly I am clueless what you're going for here. Reminds me of a song from Led Zep's first album...

Oh well, carry on carrying on... Mathglot (talk) 18:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

was hidden by his parents and managed to survive the Nazi period

The fact is:
"Das ZEITmagazin vom 6. September 1996" (in German). Die Zeit. 1996-09-06. Daß Walter Kistler die Nazizeit überlebt hat, verdankt er seiner Mutter: Sie gab ihn nicht ins Heim AVS (talk) 04:32, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The content above appears to be a response to this edit. The description you give above is already contained in the image file which is accessible in a single click, and needn't be duplicated in the article.

As a general rule, when commenting on a Talk page please add sufficient context so other editors can follow what you are talking about. Your comments above given without context may be viewed as mysterious. See Talk page guidelines for more info. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 20:30, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]